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Offline wrag

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« on: February 10, 2005, 11:23:09 AM »
It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2005, 01:32:45 PM »
it did :D

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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2005, 01:54:42 PM »
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Mr Moroney said that, as part of the blitz, thousands of weapons were destroyed because police were not satisfied that the firearms were being kept securely, or that "possession of that firearm was necessarily further warranted".


Holy ****ing ****!  I'm beyond words.  :mad:
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2005, 02:40:12 PM »
yep... it is allways best to watch history.   Those who don't are doomed to repeat it.   What happened to those poor bastards is exacly what the gun grabbers here have in mind for us.

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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2005, 06:19:22 PM »
OOOOOH  I do hope so for the sake of all your victims of shootings!

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2005, 06:41:13 PM »
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OOOOOH  I do hope so for the sake of all your victims of shootings!


The vast majority of those victims would still be dead even if the perpetrator didnt have access to a firearm. The perps would just find other weapons to use.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2005, 06:48:29 PM »
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The vast majority of those victims would still be dead even if the perpetrator didnt have access to a firearm. The perps would just find other weapons to use.



when was the last time a knife missed its target and killed a bystander?

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2005, 07:03:19 PM »
Errrmmm...

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In total, 185,000 licensed firearm holders were identified, holding about 600,000 registered firearms between them, he said.


Thats an average of 3 firearms per license holder... why the need?

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"Some 43,000 weapons were seized and subsequently destroyed by NSW police during (20)03-04," he said.


Thats less than 7% of the firearms.

So in summary, over a 2 year period the Australian police do an audit, find some issues with 7% of those firearms and have them destroyed. That 7% includes improperly secured (ie within reach of kids), and possibly unsafe firearms.

Then the flaming gun nuts sit on the sidelines screaming bloody murder over that little 7%?

You guys need to take a good look in the mirror when you claim the anti-gun nuts are... well.... nuts :)

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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2005, 08:17:09 PM »
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when was the last time a knife missed its target and killed a bystander?


Probably when some perp thought it would be really cool to throw his knife at his intended victim (like they do in the movies), but never practiced throwing a knife ;)
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2005, 08:18:28 PM »
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Thats an average of 3 firearms per license holder... why the need?


I own 7 firearms, each has a different purpose.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2005, 08:22:42 PM »
I own far more than 7 firearms. I do not have to claim a need to be able to own them.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2005, 12:40:30 AM »
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when was the last time a knife missed its target and killed a bystander?


Problem with that thought is a knife probably wouldnt have missed its target and you would still have one person dead.
It just wouldnt be the bystander.

But really you think criminals are worried that they are breaking the law if they have a gun?
  Ummm they're CRIMINALS.
USING a gun or simply being in possession of a gun while committing a crime carries a harsher penalty even if its not used and they do it anyway. You really delude yourself into thinking that they will care if guns are illegal? That they are going to say
"Guns are against the law so I wont use it to try to rob this convieniance store"

All it does it take away the guns from people who the vast majority of them never have or will ever use it to commit a crime with. And the real criminals will still have guns.

It will also put all the power in the hands of the criminals, and the government (who are sometimes one in the same)
And ask us to put all our faith in the government and police to be able to protect me.

Sorry But both have shown an inability to do so.
The Police, God bless em all, do their best Im sure. But they are more often then not a reactionary force then a preventing one and they only actually prevent a miniscule amount of the crimes that are actually commited each and every day.

As my father used to say
"When the government cannot protect the people. the people must be allowed to protect themselves"

Well, they cant. and we should.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2005, 12:50:03 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2005, 08:11:03 AM »
vort... that is true.. knives don't miss but bombs and cars and pianos pushed of buildings and airliners crashed do...

I believe that what we are saying is that if all guns just dissapeared we would either have the same homicide rate or it would go up... If the helpless were unarmed it would cause more deaths...If the bad guys knew that all they had to be was stronger than the victim homicides would go up.

Probly less bad guys would get killed tho.

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2005, 11:35:16 AM »
Sigh there realy is no hope for the land of the gun!

Good luck to you all. I hope the kevlar vests aren't too uncomfortable and enjoy playing with your lethal toys. you all have my deepest sympathy.

Oh and god forbid don't get shot now will you. Bullets do a lot of damage you know!

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