Gt4

[Heretik]

Originally posted by texace
There's no physical damage because it would have taken two or more discs to get all the textures and physics into the game.
 

The lack of visible damage always has been and always will be a licensing issue.  Many car manufacturers will not allow their products to be shown with any kind of cosmetic damage.  

Is visible damage worth losing 3/4 of the cars in the game?  If so you might want to check out TOCA Race Driver 2 which is actually a pretty decent racer but has nowhere near the number of cars as GT.

[SFRT - Frenchy]

GT4 is still fairly arcadish even with the nany turn off (Has even to be on sometime on full "counter-understeer" to simulate some king of oversteer).

But should be good enought till Forza comes along ... online racing and custom rides is the only way to go nowadays.

[texace]

I really don't know why there are so many cars in GT4, possibly because it's been a stple of the GT series for so many years to have a large number of cars with the best possible physics.

Besides the licensing issue, which you're spot on with, there's really no need to show damage to these vehicles. Consider this, in a NASCAR game, they accurately detail damage and the physical downside of it because admage is a part of the race. You're always door handle to door handle and someone's going to bite the dust at some point. When you're racing in the GT series, you're not "supposed" to crash into things. Some of the things I've seen my friends do would total a car with a single blow. If the game did that, you'd have to buy a new car and sit out a week while you recover. Doesn't make for a very fun game when you have to keep buying cars left and right or keep spending money on repairs because you don't know how to drive.

I'm not saying you don't know how to play the game. I'm actually making a statement based on how all my friends and their friends play the game. I'm strange, as I actually like the tests and like "driving" the cars while everyone else I know will do everything possible to win and beat the game. They will, as we all like to put it, "game the game."

Certainly GT4 has an insane number of cars and a large number of tracks while TOCA is a good racer it doesn't come close to GT4 in my opinion. Comparing them side by side, they look about the same to me and GT4 seems to drive better for me. I'm a little biased because I still have the original three GTs in my room somewhere and I've played them forever. Not that TOCA isn't a good game, it's just not my cup of tea.

Besides, what other game lets you take pictures of a DeLorean DMC 12 stomping all over an RX-7.

[indy007]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
Do you still have to do all the driving test to get licensees?

Man those are a pain!

It's not as bad as you think. I did B to IB in 1 sitting. Two hours tops (including Sit-N-Wait-Station load times).. only 2 tests from wrapping up IA, Nurburgring hotlap & the grad test. Problem with the Nur hotlap is the pace car system they use now. I've played the track so many times I pick a faster line than it does, and it fails you if you overtake.

I am not too interested by 1000 HP UFOs.

If it can't go 200+ mph, it doesn't have a place in my garage.. except for a handful of niche cars (1 boxer, 1 convertible, 1 classic, etc, etc) You can already drive any of the cars in arcade mode from what I saw of it, so I sell them as fast I win them. I B-mode'd my way to riches, and now I'm going through and beating all the circuits in A-spec. More fun for me

[GtoRA2]

indy007
 So the tests are easier then say GT3?

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Texace, I agree for GT racing and above, but GT4 also brings to you the Euro championships such as BTCC, and the week end warriors. Those are the ones where you can actually "rubbing is racing". A time penalty for "hitting", is a good cheap alternative to prevent the "wall bouncing no brake turn".

Indy, the fun for me is to drive an old classic. Thundering into the corner riding the fin equilibrium of the road bite, escaping with a slight oversteer at the exit. Not having much power, braking  and grip makes you constently try to ride the edge, knowing that when you pass it you are up for a time costly power slide. That's my fun:p Like when I drive my real life 1973 trantran. Kind of like the pilot saying: Jets are for kids

When it's finally the week end, I ditch the F250 with the ladder rack, remove the car cover from the trantran, warm the engine up and go see my girlfriend. I don't know if I have more pleasure knowing that I'm going to get laid, or by knowing I'll be driving my car for 2 days.

[indy007]

So the tests are easier then say GT3?

Mostly yes, some no. I got passed 90% of the tests the first time I tried. Won silver about 25% of the time, gold maybe 10%. It's just wierd getting used to new phsyics and the cars they make you drive. Half the time I'd enter the first corner not knowing if my car was FF, FR, or AWD.

Indy, the fun for me is to drive an old classic. Thundering into the corner riding the fin equilibrium of the road bite, escaping with a slight oversteer at the exit. Not having much power, braking  and grip makes you constently try to ride the edge, knowing that when you pass it you are up for a time costly power slide. That's my fun:p Like when I drive my real life 1973 trantran. Kind of like the pilot saying: Jets are for kids
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Thankfully, I am a kid This weekend we'll be running however many people it lets into LAN play... flashbacks to PGR2 on xbox... all my friends drive very clean, but extremely aggressive and the track is filled with JGTC cars... so I build garages full of different UFOs to stay competitive with their "real" cars. Just gotta have a car built & tuned for every single track setup

[moose]

lan play is bizaare...

you gotta select 30 favorites cuz it only allows those and certain arcade models..and cars you buy in turismo mode can be put as favorites, but nothing from your garage

so basically once you get down to it, no tuned up races.. which is ok i guess, though not the best setup

other then that lan play is awesome.. love drivin the 500hp cars with my friends in nurumburg, that race is somethin else

[moose]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
To turn off the driving aids "Nanny" in Gran Tourismo mode, you have to go into the setup menu when you are at the track.  There is an item at the middle bottom of the setup screen which lets you set the traction control & abs strength and the strength of the understeer/oversteer nanny.  For some modern cars it's quite realistic to leave those turned on, but in general it is a lot more fun with them turned off.

so just set both to 0? i thought that might be it but i wasnt sure

[GtoRA2]

Fantastic!!!!


Lets see, My fav so far is the 71 440 Sixpack cuda, 730 HP, though I think it is making less now that I played with Nitros.



I love the Bspec mode!  Easy way to make money early on while you read.


Just won a superbird.

Really great stuff, does anyone know of a page that list car setups, I am doing ok with my own but I would like to compare.

[indy007]

I got my Pagani Zonda to run 8.75 @ 165-ish on the 400m strip, and still push over 230 flat out with the same gear ratio...

Finally getting an appreciation for the classics. Having alot of fun in a midly tuned Toyota 2000GT

[FUNKED1]

Anybody playing on Chamonix or Tsukuba Wet yet?  Driving a Stratos on those is driftriffic.  I tried a GT350 and it was hilarious.

[indy007]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
Anybody playing on Chamonix or Tsukuba Wet yet?  Driving a Stratos on those is driftriffic.  I tried a GT350 and it was hilarious.

What section is it in? I'm wrapping up the last of the pro section at the moment so I can get to the extreme events

[Urchin]

I'm torn between school-work and WoW.. unfortunately GT4 is kind of on the shelf for now.  I did make a lil over a million bucks doing that trick though lol.

[Krusher]

Speeed racerrr