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« on: February 28, 2005, 11:39:22 AM »

(CNN) -- U.S. adventurer Steve Fossett says he has last-minute nerves as he prepares an attempt on the "last great aviation record" by piloting an airplane alone around the world without refueling or stopping.

If the skies remain clear the 60-year-old former investor will take off Monday from Salina, Kansas, in the single-jet-engined Virgin Atlantic GlobalFlyer, loaded with more than four times its own weight in fuel.

Over the 80 hours the challenge is expected to take, Fossett will fly to Europe and the Middle East, over Asia and the Pacific, and back to Kansas.

If he succeeds, he will have broken several records including the longest time flying non-stop without refueling. But if he fails, his life is in serious danger.

The most dangerous part of the attempt is the take-off, due to take place between 3 p.m. and 6 p.m. local time (2100 and 0000 GMT).

GlobalFlyer has never been tested with a full load of fuel and any unexpected turbulence or technical problems could spell disaster.

The project is partly sponsored by Sir Richard Branson's company Virgin and the British entrepreneur is in Kansas to wish his friend and former ballooning colleague well.

At a news conference at mission control in Kansas State University on Sunday, Fossett appeared strained as reporters' questions focused on what might happen if something went wrong.

"I suppose I am a little bit of a nervous person -- perhaps it is justified in this case," he said.

"It will be very scary to take off in a plane this heavy and the consequences of something going wrong...

"There is very little margin for things like turbulence and tail winds."

Originally scheduled to launch on February 2, unsatisfactory weather has prompted mission planners to delay the flight several times.

The GlobalFlyer consists of three hulls attached to a 35-meter (114-foot) wing that measures more than half the wingspan of a Boeing 747. Twin "boom" hulls on either side of the cockpit hull each carry almost 2,500 kilograms (5,500 pounds) of fuel. The plane is expected to reach heights of 17,000 meters (52,000 feet) and travel at speeds in excess of 250 knots (440 kph, 285 mph).

Atop the plane's 7-foot cockpit is a single jet engine, which must propel the aircraft throughout its 15,500 km (25,000-mile) trek.

"The first solo nonstop is a grand endeavor," said Fossett. "If successful, I hope to earn a place in aviation history in the legacy of Wiley Post." In 1933, Post rounded the globe after stopping 11 times in just under eight days.
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2005, 12:07:15 PM »
Best of luck Steve!!  Quite an ambitious undertaking for a 60 year old man!

For those that want to follow along - http://www.virginatlanticglobalflyer.com/  Site is moving a bit slow now, but it's there.

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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2005, 01:07:14 PM »
if he uses a auto pilot, does that qualify as "flying alone"?

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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2005, 01:37:04 PM »
I grew up in Salina and learned to fly at the airport (old Schilling Airbase for B-47's).  It's got a verrrryy longgg runway.

It's a rather strong wind out of the NW today in KC, so I hope he can still attempt it this afternoon.

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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2005, 01:44:06 PM »
Sting... where u been? We all need to do lunch again.

Plus you should dust off the keyboard and come play with the group again. Been having some good times.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2005, 01:46:02 PM »
You got it Toad....been damn busy lately.  I'll try to get on tonite.

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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2005, 01:56:29 PM »
Just log into Teamspeak and we'll tell you where were are.

You may have to relocate the server. Same name, diff IP. Do the standard scan for 13th, password is the same.

Questions?

See me in the squad forum, Mr.!

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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2005, 02:20:05 PM »
Wonder why he didn't connect the twin boom elevators ala P-38?
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2005, 02:29:09 PM »
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Wonder why he didn't connect the twin boom elevators ala P-38?


Over 60 years of engineering prolly says otherwise..
« Last Edit: February 28, 2005, 02:32:19 PM by Nuke33 »

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2005, 02:57:50 PM »
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Wonder why he didn't connect the twin boom elevators ala P-38?



Extra weight?

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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2005, 04:05:29 PM »
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Extra weight?



...& in a far aft position in an overloaded plane

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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2005, 04:18:51 PM »
Good luck to the guy. We have too few pioneering things like this left to do in the world.

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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2005, 09:40:12 PM »
Rutan's Voyager was sort of like GlobalFlyer except had elevators or brace or whatever in front.  Just seems like need some kind of connection in addition to the wing between the two booms (mostly fuel tanks).  

P-38s, F-82s, OV-10s, C-119s, Venoms, Saab 21s, FW-189s -- all these famous twin boomers were connected by more than wing.  

Is GlobalFlyer the first unconnected twin boomer?  Apparently not, but the only one I can think of is that Space Ship One and White Knight combination that set altitude records.

Those booms look too independent without the tails connected.  Connecting the tails wouldn't add much weight with light composites, and that should be offset by added lift.  (No, I'm not an engineer ... just guessing).

Can't be that much different from a catamaran (this guy is a record-holding sailor too).  Need solid braces at each end.  

Apparently the disconnect is to avoid interfering with the jet engine exhaust.  And the host site reports engine noise was a problem for the pilot until that was alleviated.  

So maybe the engine should have been mounted a little higher yet and perhaps the pilot should have been prone more like Voyager.  And that might have gotten the engine exhaust above a tail joining the two booms.  

Maybe maybe maybe.  Whatever the design tradeoffs, with only the wing connecting the twin booms, any severe turbulence or stress would have to have more serious effect.  Let's hope the design encounters only fair weather and is not tested too severely.

Just saw the flight has taken off and will be back to Kansas in about three days.  Good luck to a bold endeavor.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2005, 10:25:14 PM by Halo »
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2005, 11:02:33 PM »
I would think the reason is drag. You don't need extra lift from the tail, just stabilization. Drag = less fuel efficient.

Also from the photo it appears the engine is centerline. Having a wing in the way would seem to be a bad thing.
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2005, 11:16:35 PM »
Looks like he's airborne!

Longitude          Latitude
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38,297ft            311.00 knots
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