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Offline Octavius

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« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2005, 08:45:37 PM »
If nanotechnology were to be developed to aid in extending human life on earth, I would imagine the same technology has applications elsewhere.  For example, getting off this rock and aiding in survival in conditions unlike earth.  Bored with earth?  Fine, go somewhere else.

Besides that...

Everyone has their individual definition and vision/fantasy/whatever of immortality.  Boredom, exploration, et cetera.  We're looking at it from this small  perspective of the present.  In order for us to answer even slightly on the same page, we would need a more detailed scenerio than, "Bam!!  Humanity is immortal, deal with it!"  As of now, some might see it as magic.  What is magic?  Art Clark says "Technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic."  Tell someone from the early 20th century we'd be surfing around this virtual place called the internet and describe ALL the shenanigans and goings on of the entire web... let alone a bunch of geeks surfing for pr0n and arguing endlessly on a flight sim's BBS.  That might be a lot to take in.  

I would imagine the deveopment of nanotechnology would not reach a level so advanced as to stymie aging all at once.  That would be the pinnacle of nanotechnology - all areas converge to this all encompassing process.  Stages leading up to this convergent time would extend the impulse and soften the blow.  It would seem only logical to blend all of hte various aspects and see what kind of gas mileage we get.  Further, faster, better.  

In what sort of applications would nanotechnology be of use?  Pry safe to say hundreds if not thousands of applications can be thought of in less than a month's time.  A few things are pretty easy... look at Deus Ex :)

Realistically, I wouldn't mind some sort of a tap into the optic nerve for a heads up display in your vision.  

Some who are keen on the Gaia theory think the internet is a primitive nervous system for the planet and we all live in some symbiotic coexistence.  Gaia, earth, is becoming aware of itself through tiny eyes (humans).  Imagine a massive network which allows all humans to tap into and communicate.  We could evolve past primitive spoken language... communication through other, more thorough means for better understanding.  Think of telepathy through nanotechnology :)

I could go on and on.  Basically, I don't think boredom is a good answer.  Should this happen, it's not going to be like flipping a switch.
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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2005, 09:04:20 PM »
i think you are right in that it isnt going to be a flick of the switch.

but i might say,  "same as it ever was".

of course the future is odd to us, and there is a certain selfishness that is automatically attatched to the question.

the "I" living forever.

i really don't think that is possible.   the piano (as it were) exists somewhere in that long string of moments.  either by the hand of the universe or by the inability for the life force to continue.  to be truly immortal one would have to be completely impervious to EVERYTHING.  given the nature of man and the environment, i would suggest that immortality would become a subject of contention like everything else.  the worst result being, there ends up being "only one"

thats where boredom will really set in.

i would also have to rethink my reasoning which says, "at worst, anything that i screw up now...i will only have to suffer for 60 years, tops."  

a drop in the bucket of time.

the seed is what replenishes us.

i would not want to live forever.
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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2005, 09:41:13 PM »
Eternal life?

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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2005, 09:45:09 PM »
Makes one wonder whats worth more - 80,000 years of hell or 5 seconds of heaven. I think I'll reject living forever out of hand.

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« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2005, 01:01:38 AM »
don't have time to read the whole thread.
http://www.gen.cam.ac.uk/sens/

JB88, some people are just a lot more straightforward than that.
I know I could come up with a thousand years of things to do within a month or a year at most.
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« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2005, 01:04:29 AM »
and the first quoted guy in the OP has a site of hiw own:
http://kurzweilai.net
Among other things, it chronicles advancements towards the "singularity".
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« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2005, 01:18:25 AM »
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don't have time to read the whole thread.
http://www.gen.cam.ac.uk/sens/

JB88, some people are just a lot more straightforward than that.
I know I could come up with a thousand years of things to do within a month or a year at most.


more straightforward than what moot?
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« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2005, 08:59:22 AM »
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Soon as they can stop the telomeres of cells from shortening, we can live forever.




lol I was about to say  Immortality is impossible.  ^^^ that is why.


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« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2005, 09:40:13 AM »
Err... not if I have to WORK for another 900 years + ! NO WAY JOSE!!!111 :mad:
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« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2005, 10:23:00 AM »
I don't know about you but I plan to live forever.. :D

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« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2005, 10:44:44 AM »
My goal, if physical immortality is impossible, is to immortalize myself in my writings.  My plan involves creating two online personalities, Locke and Demosthenes.  I'll pit the two against each other on Usenet and various boards to further my idealogy and create legions of supporters.  Then, when my military genius sibling defeats an imminent threat and through their actions indirectly throws the world governments into chaos, I'll have my supporters call for my Locke persona to come forth and bring order to the planet.  I will reluctantly accept the title of...  I haven't chosen between Hegemon or God Emperor yet...  and then lead the peoples of the world to a brave new future.

By then, I hope to wield enough influence to have Enterprise brought back to television and the Me-323 Gigant added to HTC.  Basically, that's all I want.
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« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2005, 11:16:21 AM »
Stand up Ender......... oh wait you are standing.
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« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2005, 11:24:09 AM »
Technically, it would be 'stand up Peter'.  :D
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« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2005, 01:01:29 PM »
Read Time Enough For Love by Heinlein. Interesting sci-fi piece covering this topic.

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« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2005, 01:07:13 PM »
Since the human wang has a shelf life, I'll assume for atleast 300 of those 600 years every man will be taking Viagra.

I'd buy stocks in Viagra.
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