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[Kurfürst]

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[BUG_EAF322]

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[straffo]

Originally posted by Kurfürst
Who extended it to  the whole 1943 spitifire, don`t mix things up mister, if you failed to grasp the meaning of what I have actually written, then don`t blame your own lacking mental state on me, would you? It`s boring to discuss anything with such idiots who can`t even get the meaning of simple statements.

you answered to this :

Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
The spit couldnt do negative turns until 1943

and more crap

And this cover the whole 1939-1943 period.
Like your answer.

[Kurfürst]

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[straffo]

So when you answer a question you don't care of the context ? interresting...

[MiloMorai]

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[Wotan]

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[MiloMorai]

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[Squire]

The Spitfire IX carbs on the Merlin 61 and 63 were not fuel injected, but they were "negative-g" float carbs. The Spit F.IX did not suffer from neg-g cutout. No version of the Spit IX (or later varients) did.

The neg-g carb problem was fixed on the Mark Vbs with the introduction of the anti-g float carbs. The Royal Aircraft Establishment at Farnbourough came up with the fix. You can find the info in any book on the Spit V series, or any # of internet sources.

[Kurfürst]

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[TimRas]

Originally posted by Squire
The Spitfire IX carbs on the Merlin 61 and 63 were not fuel injected, but they were "negative-g" float carbs. The Spit F.IX did not suffer from neg-g cutout. No version of the Spit IX (or later varients) did.

" It would have been easier for the Spitfire IX to follow the Fw190 in a diving turn if its engine had been fitted with a negative 'G' carburettor, as this type of of engine with the ordinary carburettor cuts very easily."
[Spitfire IX-Fw190 tactical trials, Alfred Price: Fighter Aircraft]


" The problem of engine cutting under negative g had also been a great disadvantage in combat. The excellent Miss Schilling at the RAE, Farnborough, had already achieved a substantial amelioration of this problem but no means a full solution. I had no idea what the final answer would be but was sure I should press very hard it to be found ( It was, with the Bendix Stromberg carburettor, but it took a long time)."
[ Jeffrey Quill: Spitfire]

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Kurfürst
For people like Karnak, Angus or Squire, the Spitfire was just flawless, perfecto, best in everything. They`ll never change their mind.

Yes, so flawless that I have stated multiple times in this thread that I thought the Bf109F series was a better fighter than the Spitfire Mk V series.

Yeesh.


HoHun,

Sorry, but I don't have a scanner so I cannot post the chart that I got the Mosquito Mk IV performance off of.  You'll either have to take my word for it, or I might as well just say "Whatever HoHun says just has to be true because there is no way I can even provide evidence otherwise."  I have posted charts from that book before, but focused on Mk VI charts as we don't have a Mk IV in AH.  If you want to believe that the Mk IV peaked at 12,000ft so be it.

[straffo]

Wotan a float type carburateur is not enought to forbid inverted flight for exemple.
Injection is a contrario a sure indication of this ability.


Exemple on a pretty primitive aircraft and engine :

Stampe moteur Renault




And no I was not involved in this incident
http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/1999/f-ub990627/htm/f-ub990627.html

[Nashwan]

HoHun
The Me 109F achieved its top speed at 6.2 km while the Mosquito was fastest at 12000 ft, so the advantage of the Me 109 at the Mosquito's best altitude was much smaller than you think :-)

The Mosquito B IV chart I have shows 370 mph at 15,000 ft in low gear (FTH), 385 at 22,000 ft in high gear (again FTH) at 12 lbs.

(I don't know where I got the chart, but it's the one that compares the Mossie against the figures the RAE got from Faber's 190)

[pasoleati]

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