Italy Rejects U.S. Version of Iraq Shooting

[Curval]

lol

Fine, I wasn't there and I don't know what happened.

Besides...she's just a commie, and we can't go pointing fingers at the evil Boooosh, no-one will admit their mistakes because the CIA and the Italian "agency" is involved...etc etc etc.

We will have to wait and see.

One thing is for sure...they are going to dig an American bullet out of an ally.  That is what I meant by the newsflash comment.  An American pulled the trigger....it wasn't the gun's fault.

[Muckmaw1]

Originally posted by Muckmaw1
Total BS, Curv.

If someone decides to commit suicide by running at a cop waving a knife, is the cops fault?

If a man jumps into a lions den to try and baptize it, do we blame the lion when he gets mauled or the man for doing something stupid?

You see Curval, no one knows what happened and regardless of whose bullet is in the man's head, if they did something negligent, they may be responsible for their own fate.

Wait and see.

[mosgood]

If the Italians paid the Terrorist to release that women, they should be punished.  

Where the hell is the ransom money going to go?  TO PAY FOR MORE WEAPONS TO KILL AMERICAN SOLDIERS!!!!

for one journalist.....  they just funded our enemies....  I say that is a damn good reason to take out the people in that operation.

[Shamus]

Im sure CID is all over this one.

As long as the investigation results are transparent and not full of political CYA I would think the troops actions will be found to be within the rules of engagement.

shamus

[rabbidrabbit]

Originally posted by Curval
lol

One thing is for sure...they are going to dig an American bullet out of an ally.  That is what I meant by the newsflash comment.  An American pulled the trigger....it wasn't the gun's fault.

An individual pulled the trigger under unknown circumstances.  They happened to be American.  It was a individual decision under complex circumstances not a matter of policy.

[Drunky]

Originally posted by Steve
Lol!

Pssst Drunky,  you misspelled  the word "misspell"

At least someone caught it.

[Curval]

Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
An individual pulled the trigger under unknown circumstances.  They happened to be American.  It was a individual decision under complex circumstances not a matter of policy.

I have already stated that I did not think it was done on purpose.  I personally think it was an accident.

[gatt]

Look guys we italian are sure that no serius investigation will be done. Thats the america's way to do it. Do you remember Cermis accident in Italy? A low flying Prowler killed 20 people. The pilot disobeyed the order of no flying below 2,000ft. The navigator destroyed the tape (flight recorder) of the flight. Both are free and without any trial.  

The truth is simple some trigger happy untrained guys have targeted a car with 3 italian army men and an hostage with no warning and not near a check-point (thats what survivors are saying to our police and judges). A bloody accident. War is hell. Honor to the service man who covered the body of the hostage with his.

BTW, you know, it is funny how most of you american ppl speak about other lives, both allied and enemy. Just bodies to counts. Cowboys? Even Pat Garret had more respect of Billy The Kid when killed him.

[rabbidrabbit]

Originally posted by gatt
Look guys we italian are sure that no serius investigation will be done. Thats the america's way to do it. Do you remember Cermis accident in Italy? A low flying Prowler killed 20 people. The pilot disobeyed the order of no flying below 2,000ft. The navigator destroyed the tape (flight recorder) of the flight. Both are free and without any trial.  

The truth is simple some trigger happy untrained guys have targeted a car with 3 italian army men and an hostage with no warning and not near a check-point (thats what survivors are saying to our police and judges). A bloody accident. War is hell. Honor to the service man who covered the body of the hostage with his.

BTW, you know, it is funny how most of you american ppl speak about other lives, both allied and enemy. Just bodies to counts. Cowboys? Even Pat Garret had more respect of Billy The Kid when killed him.

And you call us biased?

[Muckmaw1]

Originally posted by gatt
Look guys we italian are sure that no serius investigation will be done. Thats the america's way to do it. Do you remember Cermis accident in Italy? A low flying Prowler killed 20 people. The pilot disobeyed the order of no flying below 2,000ft. The navigator destroyed the tape (flight recorder) of the flight. Both are free and without any trial.  

The truth is simple some trigger happy untrained guys have targeted a car with 3 italian army men and an hostage with no warning and not near a check-point (thats what survivors are saying to our police and judges). A bloody accident. War is hell. Honor to the service man who covered the body of the hostage with his.

BTW, you know, it is funny how most of you american ppl speak about other lives, both allied and enemy. Just bodies to counts. Cowboys? Even Pat Garret had more respect of Billy The Kid when killed him.

Yepper.

You got it Pardner. We're all cowboys here...shoot first ask questions later.

YEEEEHHAAAAAW!!!

[mosgood]

Originally posted by gatt
Look guys we italian are sure that no serius investigation will be done. Thats the america's way to do it. Do you remember Cermis accident in Italy? A low flying Prowler killed 20 people. The pilot disobeyed the order of no flying below 2,000ft. The navigator destroyed the tape (flight recorder) of the flight. Both are free and without any trial.  

The truth is simple some trigger happy untrained guys have targeted a car with 3 italian army men and an hostage with no warning and not near a check-point (thats what survivors are saying to our police and judges). A bloody accident. War is hell. Honor to the service man who covered the body of the hostage with his.

BTW, you know, it is funny how most of you american ppl speak about other lives, both allied and enemy. Just bodies to counts. Cowboys? Even Pat Garret had more respect of Billy The Kid when killed him.

If your country paid that ransom, they are funding terrorists.  Italy has grown a boot.... too bad it wasn't a backbone.

[Lizard3]

From an article found on MSN:
"Sgrena — who works for the communist newspaper Il Manifesto, a fierce opponent of the war and a frequent critic of U.S. policy"


Uh, thats all I need to know.

MSN article

[Toad]

Originally posted by gatt
Do you remember Cermis accident in Italy? A low flying Prowler killed 20 people. The pilot disobeyed the order of no flying below 2,000ft. The navigator destroyed the tape (flight recorder) of the flight. Both are free and without any trial.  

They were tried by courts martial; both were punished.

October 27, 1999-Capt Ashby was released from the brig at Camp Lejeune on October 2nd. He was sentenced to 6 months confinement for conviction on charges of obstruction of justice and conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice. He served 5 months and was released early due to good behavior. In addition to confinement, Capt Ashby's sentence included dismissal and forfeiture of all pay and allowances. He will appeal his conviction.

April 6, 1999-Last week, Capt Joseph Schweitzer's trial began on charges of obstruction of justice and conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice. He entered a plea of guilty as part of an arrangement with the prosecution. A panel of Members (military equivalent to a jury) decided that his sentence would be dismissal from the Marine Corps. This is equivalent to a dishonorable discharge.

[stegor]

I've read some of the most  and ridiculous things, and some of the most dreadful opinions  on this BBS.
Even more convinced that "this is not America"
But you really scare  me guys:(

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
LMAO that was 4 presidents and 5 administrations ago.

My bad
6

Because we haven't violated our own policy within the last 5 years makes us less of a hypocrit nation?  The fact is, this country did trade arms for hostages at one time.  



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