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Offline GreenCloud

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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2005, 07:41:38 AM »
siaf..thsi is the last skull kicking i will give you on this post



why even bring up your negative crap...


so what you are bashing us?..cause we aprove  and look up to..and congradulate somebody? maybe you should just say, good job! or salute!..OR DONT POST ANYTHING..nothing to say so just bash him? YA Baherry..we should not give you any credit or recognizition..thats what Siaf says...


How about you re-read the FIRST POST..then read your comments...

then go stik a knife in ur left side belly..please

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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2005, 08:03:07 AM »
"Good show, Pte Beharry. Carry on."

Beharry.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2005, 08:25:50 AM »
Cool guy.

Asked what was going through his mind at the time of the second attack, he quipped: "RPG."

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/35588.html

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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2005, 08:34:58 AM »
Greencloud I posted because I thought at that time that the guy was in a coma fighting for his life while you guys celebrated his medal.

Why do you have to be so sensitive about everything? Sheesh.

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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2005, 08:49:31 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2005, 09:09:00 AM »
Siaf, I’ve read a few of your posts previously and enjoyed them. The studied indifference or nonchalance, whatever you want to call it, you’ve displayed here though is more similar to the right wing knee jerkers I thought you loathed.

I may be out of order but you really should read the f***ing article first before pronouncing on it. You may well be right with the whole medal critique but whatever social customs you and I may share when we don’t act on our impulses, no doubt this guy doesn’t. I think he may be the genuine article.

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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2005, 09:20:08 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2005, 09:46:15 AM »
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Greencloud it would help if you would take the time to spell correctly and read/understand the posts.

Let me repeat: Usually awards and medals are worshipped only by sidestanders, the ones who earn them often couldn't care less. In fact, many warheroes I've seen have commented they don't care about the medals. They care how they're treated post-war. [/B]


Hey Lancelot, that isn't even a word.  BTW, did you feel your sword impale you when you tripped on the pebble?

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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2005, 09:50:27 AM »
Indeed he is the real article. A VC is a very special medal.

Siaf is not wrong though. We had a series here on TV about VC winners a while back. Many of those still alive to tell the tale seemed very nonplussed about the medal. Some even stated that in their opinion they were not sure why what they'd done was considered VC material, and what all the fuss was about. Most real heroes are very humble.
Many VC winners died whilst carrying out their noble deeds.

So before you villify Siaf think on what he actualy meant. He was not as I see it being disrespectfull. Merely pointing out what he has observed to be the case. Also it did seem that the serviceman in question was indeed fighting for his life in a coma. How fantastic that he is not and what a brave chap.

Pvte Beharry

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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2005, 10:47:22 AM »
Its really easy Skydancer, Siafs first post suggested that as the guy was in a coma the medal was essentially some kind of bourgeois act to encourage future acts of outstanding heroics on behalf of the proles in an unjust war.  No doubt there is some merit in that, but dismissing what this guy did with out even reading the freakin article beggars belief.

I then suggested that the view, essentially that the peasants will only be encouraged to act gallantly for pretty ribbons is as repugnant as his instant dismissal as this award as being bogus. Gutter and stars spring to mind.

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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2005, 10:52:06 AM »
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I then suggested that the view, essentially that the peasants will only be encouraged to act gallantly for pretty ribbons is as repugnant as his instant dismissal as this award as being bogus. Gutter and stars spring to mind.


Given that historically, around 90% of VCs have been awarded posthumously, I wouldn't count the prospect of winning one as much of an inducement to gallantry.