Author Topic: 64bit Linux (Read 900 times)

beet1e · « **on:** March 29, 2005, 01:19:18 PM »

I'm going to be working on a project with my GF (tomato) to develop a Linux box with a view to seeing how far we can push it with regard to running Windows applications and using it for games.

I understand that there may well be a 64bit version of Linux now, and I'd be interested to look at that.

If anyone knows about Linux, especially the 64bit version, I'd appreciate a few pointers with regard to where I can get it. I understand it's "open source" ie. free.

If using the 64bit version of Linux, I assume it would be sensible to get a 64bit processor. I'd like to go my usual Asus/AMD route, as this has been remarkably trouble free in the past. Please make suggestions for the following:

Linux version (and URL/where to find it)
Suitable Asus motherboard for a 64bit CPU
A 64 bit AMD CPU

Kev367th · « **Reply #1 on:** March 29, 2005, 03:32:25 PM »

Try searching for Fedora Core 4 (I think it's the latest one), based on Redhat.
One issue - Will not install on a SATA RAID setup, althoguh you can setup on standard IDE drive then add SATA RAID support and migrate it across.

http://fedora.redhat.com/

Personally I have an ASUS A8V deluxe and AMD64 3500.

beet1e · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2005, 04:39:01 AM »

Thaks Kev. I also reread your posts in this thread I posted last year. I'll also look at that mobo/CPU combo you have. Does that have the VIA chipset? I had heard that the VIA chipset was no longer leading edge. I had an A7V133 mobo way back when, and was up to v4.36 of the drivers. But the last check I made for new ones, the update service seemed to have been transferred to another site. Too long ago to remember exact details. I went and got an A7N8X-DLX.

I looked at the website you suggested - http://fedora.redhat.com/download/test.html#download - and I'll start some downloads going. I don't currently have a Linux system, and I'm unclear about the method of burning these images to CD. Using these downloaded files, can I begin loading the Linux OS, or are there some other surprises along the way?

Kev367th · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2005, 12:01:51 PM »

Use something like EZ CD Creator and use the "Create CD from image" option.

Yup the A8V has a VIA chipset, not really had any problems with it though.
Drivers are on http://www.viaarena.com

LePaul · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2005, 11:29:05 PM »

Fedora is quite good...and Im not much for Linux. Too many flavors, variants and version changes for me to keep up with. But my Linux guy insists this is the one to have. We went from Redhat 8 to Fedora on both DNS Servers and its been a very smooth ride.

As for home PC stuff, I dont know. I have an older P2 400mhz laptop with a lot of RAM Id like to try it on.

beet1e · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2005, 03:51:45 AM »

Well hi there, LePaul! I didn't expect to hear from you!

Thanks for replying.

Tomato's son is using "Ubuntu" - see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ It has a version designed for AMD 64bit processors, so we're going to try that just to get started, and then I'll look at Fedora later on. One of the reason's for doing it that way is that I'll be able to ask Tomato's son lots of questions and get instant answers.

Kev I'll definitely look at your mobo/CPU combo though.

LePaul · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2005, 01:41:58 PM »

Hi Beet

Still puzzled as to why you did what you did elsewhere. I assume a good, alcoholic beverage is to blame?

As to Fedora, I dont have it on an AMD cpu, the DNS Servers are both P3 1ghz, one is a dual, one is a single cpu.

Kev367th · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2005, 06:16:04 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Well hi there, LePaul! I didn't expect to hear from you! Thanks for replying.

Tomato's son is using "Ubuntu" - see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ It has a version designed for AMD 64bit processors, so we're going to try that just to get started, and then I'll look at Fedora later on. One of the reason's for doing it that way is that I'll be able to ask Tomato's son lots of questions and get instant answers.

Kev I'll definitely look at your mobo/CPU combo though.

Fedora is for AMD64 also. You just download the 64 bit version.

beet1e · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2005, 04:10:30 AM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
Fedora is for AMD64 also. You just download the 64 bit version.

Rgr that, Kev. I looked at available 64bit processors from my normal supplier. The one you have is fairly high level priced at £153 here. Hmmph....

Assuming I can get Linux to work, and I see no problem with that, I'll want to get some sort of Windows emulator. It's possible to run Windows apps like MS Word etc. on Linux. Do you have experience of doing that? Have you run AH on Linux?

LePaul - email me in private if you want the answer.

Kev367th · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2005, 12:03:38 PM »

Fedora is free from the link I posted earlier.

Mini D · « **Reply #10 on:** April 03, 2005, 01:34:07 PM »

I'm downloading Fedora64 now. Should be done sometime Monday at this rate.

I did try out the 64bit-extensions XP beta and was not happy at all. Several key features didn't work and the driver support was abysmal. They are going to be offering free XP-64 to anyone that has XP sometime mid-year from what I've heard.

Beetle, I wouldn't hold out too much hope for a decent Windows emulator in 64bit. Especially one that supported the new games coming out. Windows itself isn't doing this very well at the moment.

And skuzzy, if you're reading this, fedora is 4 CDs of installation.

beet1e · « **Reply #11 on:** April 03, 2005, 01:48:39 PM »

MiniD - what apps will you be able to run on your Linux system?

Mini D · « **Reply #12 on:** April 03, 2005, 02:35:37 PM »

I have no idea. I'll have to see what's on the CDs. The only ones I'll need right away are Apache and some kind of BBS. I'll have to check and see about the rest. I'd like to have some kind of mailer too.

Other than that, I'm pretty sure everything comes with some kind of mail reader, word processor, spreadsheet and so forth these days. Oh... I'll also need some heavy duty photo editors. I'm going to dual boot until I figure out if LINUX will do the things I absolutely need.

artik · « **Reply #13 on:** April 04, 2005, 11:14:29 AM »

I'm using Linux only at home as desktop and quite happy with it. MS Windows was removed permanently!!!

I use Fedora Core 3 - it nice easy to install. I've tryed also Debian Sarge it is very good also but it more professional oriented system and more complex in installation. Others Suse, Mandrake hadn't tryed. Ubuntoo - is Debian based.

Fedora Core 4 - is very new and it is testing version... So unless you want newest soft, but less stable you can try it.

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MiniD - what apps will you be able to run on your Linux system?

Internet - Mozilla, Fireforx, Mail
Open Office - Word, Presentation, Spreed Sheet (quite compatable with MS one MS Word, Power Point)

Gimp - powerfull photo editor

Various Servers and net applications, Lot of developlent tools.
Multimedia - movies, music etc...
Lots of other great free opensource software.

You have usually the very good package that is given with the distribution and you can download much more!!!

You can do all that you have in Windows!!!
Accept playing games - AH2

If you install Fedore there is number of very usefull links:
http://www.fedoraforum.org/

http://www.fedorafaq.org/

This FAQ must to read - gives lot of important things for you. How to install multimedia, get all you need working.

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I'm going to be working on a project with my GF (tomato) to develop a Linux box with a view to seeing how far we can push it with regard to running Windows applications and using it for games.

In order to run Win Apps you will need WINE. Usually each distribution has one. I don't know if it is same for 64bits (there are no 64 windows now only very first betha version... Actually all windows versions are bethas)

You probably need for these WineX - DirectX support for Linux - in order to run windows games,

beet1e · « **Reply #14 on:** April 08, 2005, 04:50:01 AM »

Artik - thanks for that very useful information. It seems you can do more with Linux than I imagined possible. I had already downloaded the install version of ubuntu as an .ISO file, so loaded it to CD and Tomato installed it on an old PC she has. It worked first time! No apparent issues with drivers etc. I think she said it had a built in word processor app, web browser and connection software.

But I think I'll do what you guys have done and get fedora3 Linux.