Author Topic: v2.03 Fw190 - FM changes?! (Read 2114 times)

scott123 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 13, 2005, 08:29:40 AM »

Kweassa,is right,I flew the FW190 A5 a lot an it used to be very unstable,the new A5,is a much nicer plane to fly and I suspect is a more accurate model.Flat turns when trying to land used to be a night mare,not that you would want to flat turn in combat in a 190.I haven't flown the A8 Dora yet.

Just my thoughts.

GScholz · « **Reply #16 on:** April 13, 2005, 08:53:37 AM »

So how much speed should be lost with the ETC rack on the various 190 models? Do we have any documentation for this?

Karnak · « **Reply #17 on:** April 13, 2005, 10:34:31 AM »

I flew the Fw190A-5 offline a bit last night and it felt really nice. Then I jumped online and flew it. All I could find was a really low a slow Typhoon that had just taken off and an M-16. I killed both, but it felt like a pig.

Then on the flight home I realized I had a droptank on the whole time.

Overall I like the Fw190A-5. I can see it being a frequent choice for me if I start flying more often again. It won't replace the Ki-84, but it is a nice fighter that has its own strong points.

MANDO · « **Reply #18 on:** April 13, 2005, 01:50:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Grits
Without the rack its 375-376, with the rack its 367, 8 MPH slower.

376 mph should be WITH rack.

1K3 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 13, 2005, 02:03:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Grits
Just did some back to back offline speed testing between 2.02 and 2.03 speeds were OTD with WEP:

A-5 was 339, now 333

A-8 was 349, now 344

D-9 was 375, now 367

All three of them (didnt test the F-8) are slower with the D-9 being 8 MPH slower than it was.

WHAT???

Our A-8 is kinda slow lol. IL2FB's A-8 has deck speed of 358-361mph...

Grits · « **Reply #20 on:** April 13, 2005, 02:31:00 PM »

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Originally posted by MANDO
376 mph should be WITH rack.

367 is WITH the rack, 375-6 WITHOUT the rack.

MANDO · « **Reply #21 on:** April 13, 2005, 02:55:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Grits
367 is WITH the rack, 375-6 WITHOUT the rack.

Really?

Dora speed WITH ETC 504 (curve 4, 3250 rpm mit MW50)

605 kmh (376 mph) WITH RACK.

Wotan · « **Reply #22 on:** April 13, 2005, 03:09:43 PM »

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Our A-8 is kinda slow lol. IL2FB's A-8 has deck speed of 358-361mph...

All the 190s in FB are faster OTD with C3 injection (MW-50 for the D-9)

A5 OTD - 110% + C3 -> 355mph (571 kmh)

A8 OTD - 110% + C3 -> 361mph (581kmh)

D9 OTD - 110% + MW-50 -> 372mph (600kmh)

F8 OTD - 110% + C3 -> 352mph (568kmh)

edits in bold...

MANDO · « **Reply #23 on:** April 13, 2005, 03:23:49 PM »

On the other hand, max sealevel speed for military power and ETC seems to be quite accurate +- 1 mph.

BTW, ETC 504 was very thin and very short, much smaller than ETC 501.

D9 with ETC 504

MANDO · « **Reply #24 on:** April 13, 2005, 03:27:48 PM »

Wotan, if these are IL2 deck speeds, they seem quite exagerated. 680 kph on the deck for D9 are 422 mph.

Grits · « **Reply #25 on:** April 13, 2005, 04:07:46 PM »

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Originally posted by MANDO
Really?

Dora speed WITH ETC 504 (curve 4, 3250 rpm mit MW50)

605 kmh (376 mph) WITH RACK.

All I can tell you is what I tested in AH, which was 367 with the rack (dropped the DT on takeoff) and 375-6 without it (de-selecting the DT in the hangar). I have no idea what its supposed to be, only what I saw.

Wotan · « **Reply #26 on:** April 13, 2005, 10:06:54 PM »

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Wotan, if these are IL2 deck speeds, they seem quite exagerated. 680 kph on the deck for D9 are 422 mph.

lol cut n paste screw up figures fixed now...

Kweassa · « **Reply #27 on:** April 13, 2005, 10:17:50 PM »

Maybe our Dora still has the ETC501 and not the ETC504?

Naudet · « **Reply #28 on:** April 14, 2005, 05:48:14 AM »

According to german documents speed loss below critical altitude for ETC504 12km/h and 8km/h above critical alt.

So 8mph is reasonable.

GScholz · « **Reply #29 on:** April 15, 2005, 07:34:34 AM »

All we have to do now is wait for the Ponies and Tiffies to get their racks updated. LaLa's are going to become even more dangerous now though.