Author Topic: Rugby is a tough game...WOW (Read 554 times)

bustr · « **Reply #15 on:** April 18, 2005, 08:47:37 PM »

Football for the moment to moment toughness and pain requirments is not like rugby. Rugby requires soccer like stamina, and the willingness to have your unprotected body beaten almost like a brawl constantly for the whole length of the game as the price of playing.

Football has it's own painfull and destructive moments. They happen when you don't expect them. Always some kind of a blind side, and always the hit from someone 200-375lbs going 15-20mph. When I played, I stuck a linebacker with my helmet in his sternum from a blind side. I came off the line with 5 yards to get momentum, he turned and I impacted him. I weighed 250lbs, he weighed 185lbs. I fractured his sternum, and placed a bruse on his heart that placed him on semi disability when he graduated highschool for the rest of his life. His heart muscle was permenantly weakened from the scarring left by the bruse.

I couldnt play in college because taking out a 250lb defensive end pinched a nerve in my neck causing me to loose control of my arms tempraroly any time I took a blow to the head. It took about 4 years for it to heal. And then there was the allstate running back whose knee I fell on and ruined a scholorship to Notre Dame. Sure you wear pads. They help, but the point of the game is to run at people and hit them as hard as your body can take the impact with the help of the armor.

Vulcan · « **Reply #16 on:** April 18, 2005, 09:33:56 PM »

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Originally posted by RTStuka
You have gotta be smoking something, those hits were just as hard as football and they didnt have any pads.

Hey question for anyone who knows the sport, I noticed every time a guy tackled the guy with the ball and we was wrestling with him on the ground one of his buddies would come up and slap him on the back a bunch of times, why is that.

There are two types of "Rugby", Rugby Union and Rugby League.

Rugby Union: when tackled the tackled player must release or "place" the ball. This is when you see craploads of guys piling in the clear the ball out or "ruck" the balll (use the sprigs on the bottom of the boots too a) clear the other teams players off the ball b) get the ball out).

Rugby League: when tackled the tackled player gets up and rolls the ball back with his foot to another player who waits behind him. The other team "marks" these players. When tackled if there is only 1 tackler he can attempt to strip the ball during the tackle. Tackles are counted and on the 5th tackle the ball gets handed over to the other team (although the general idea is to kick for position after the 4th tackle).

The Super 12 final will be coming up soon, I might capture some of the games if someone wants to host them. Super 12 is made up of teams from NZ, Australia, and South Africa, and IMHO is sometimes better than the international games.

SirLoin · « **Reply #17 on:** April 18, 2005, 09:46:46 PM »

I luved playin rugby in High School..since we couldn't afford NA football at our school,it was a blast!...

Played fullback at first(cause nobody else knew how to tackle)..then inside centre.

Best thing was pretty much everyone played and had fun(especially when it got muddy)

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #18 on:** April 19, 2005, 03:39:54 AM »

I played Rugby, it was fairly intense. there's no BSing in France. It's a "little town national sport". On the week end, both villages gather on the field, and Kaboom!

No proper rugby game is completed till the teams fistfight each other.
I was the winger, tall skiny guy runing fast as soon as he gets the ball (mostly for his life).

Bluedog · « **Reply #19 on:** April 19, 2005, 11:54:48 PM »

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Originally posted by RTStuka
You have gotta be smoking something, those hits were just as hard as football and they didnt have any pads.

Hey question for anyone who knows the sport, I noticed every time a guy tackled the guy with the ball and we was wrestling with him on the ground one of his buddies would come up and slap him on the back a bunch of times, why is that.

Pretty much the same reason you see loaders on crew served weapons pat the gunners head when ready to fire.
"Hey buddy, all ready to go here"

Except in this case it allso means 'Get your arse up and ruck that ball back to me NOW!!'

It allso serves to establish state of consciousness after impact....if you hit him on the back three or four times and he doesnt move, you check for breathing and pulse etc.

Btw, allmost all of the footage on that clip is of Rugby League games, when you just say 'Rugby' that means Rugby Union.

True Rugby is far more violent than that, it involves metal spikes and faces, the two meeting a lot.

-tronski- · « **Reply #20 on:** April 20, 2005, 02:58:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Bluedog

Btw, allmost all of the footage on that clip is of Rugby League games, when you just say 'Rugby' that means Rugby Union.

True Rugby is far more violent than that, it involves metal spikes and faces, the two meeting a lot.

Plenty of old footage there...King Wally, Laurie Daley, ET and the like...

I'd love to see some of the real "hardmen" after being rucked out by an All Black, or South African forward pack...

Tronsky