steal killing

[Rock]

BTW, RAM lived after that incident.

Since RAM has already made up his mind, this is for everyone else.

RAM was below me and a little ahead. I look down and see him fire. About that time he is out of icon range and all I have is his dot.
I start to descend to see what he's shooting at. I think it was a 109 I spot and dive on his 6 for the kill. I did not see RAM or any other cons till I level out. I think RAM killed another con while I was on the 109 but, I'm not sure.

From what showed on my monitor, there was no 6 call to make or not make.

[This message has been edited by Rock (edited 03-19-2000).]

[Pongo]

LOL...
the people who take the time to scam a wingless smoking fuselage from the guy who made it that way say the other guy is too worried about score. My all time favorite is when you dump all your alt and E to save a guy who is calling for help and he makes sure to finshish of that fuselage for ya.  Usually while someone else is on your six...

BUT.
Some times that wing you see rip off during your snap shot is only an outer wing section.. some of these planes are still very dangourous in that condition or at least can still ditch.  I think most of us can tell the difference by what happens. Some people ya want to fly with some you dont.


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The Wrecking Crew

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RAM---THX <S>

I guess it bothered me only becuase I knew it bothereed my squadie. He was new and he didn't know. To your credit you turned civil very quickly.

I am like this---if I am engaged on a con--I welcome the help--the wing--the 6 call-- and I dont care who gets credit for the Kill. WE got him. WE had fun.

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[RAM]

Ammo: Thanks for accepting my apologies. When I fly I know I get very hot blooded, and sometimes over react...<S> and sorry again to your squaddie (I cant recall his callsign sorry)

Ghosht:
Your idea is good, but sadly I think that it would made things much worser...right now is usual to see 4 or 5 planes after a single running con...and that knowing that only one will get the kill. If the kill is given in equal parts, then we'll se real hunts...
But I agree in something...Give a BUNCH of points (say a x3 modifier) if you land your kills. Right now I keep on being killed while avoid Headons. I doubt a lot that people will risk their points in suicide attacs such as a headon. Right now very few people cares to die as long as he gets the enemy too. THAT would be an improvement...

Rock: I was on another con, I bounced it and killed it. I Zoomed then, checked 3,9, and 6...no cons visual. Then I started typing an asnwer to a wtg of my squaddies while zooming. Then I saw the tracers all alround me, some pings ...I dived as fast as I could while rolling, looked back and I saw the 109 with you on his six. YOu killed it. YOu'll excuse me if I dont believe your explanation, because I was going level and straight up while the 109 got into my 6 (in a blind spot, for sure.I checked for cons as I ussually do after a kill). You must have seen me going straight up in a F4U with a 109 near me. That is a clear unaware situation. Its your choice to call my 6 or not to call it. You didnt so please dont try to make me think that you "thought" I was aware. Its a book situation of a surprise attack. I evaded death by a few. If you'd have called my six (easy to write "RAM 6") I would've tried to evade or drag or...

But you choose to say nothing. Its okay with me is your choice. But I pay with same coin.

Anyway I wont say more about this, rock. Enough flames for today.

[Replicant]

Hi all

I agree with you entirely Rocket...

 

Originally posted by Rocket:
 My long winded point is a kill is a kill no matter who gets it.  I value assists just as much as kills.  Matter of fact a good assist feels better than a kill alot of times.  I will always look at helping the teammates and always welcome someone finishing off anything that has 1/2 a chance of ditching or shooting back.  Now if they don't have any wings I tend to mutter to myself here at home but without drones offline I guess these make good practice targets            

S!

Rocket

If the bandit has lost a wing and is in a flat spin and is still emptying his ammo then he could easily get a lucky shot on one of your team mates... it's happened to me (lucky shot to a P51 rad doesn't take much to stop ya), so unless the bandit is in a vertical dive then i'd sooner someone finish him/her (P/C!!) off!  

Regards all

'Nexx'

[Dinger]

And what, sir, were you doing so close to a broken-wing con?
"Honest, I was just escorting him to the ground.  I wasn't planning on shootin' or nothin'"

[Shamus]

I have been shot down a few times by f4u's and niks with 1/2 a wing gone and have gotten kills while in the same condition. I dont figure a guy is dead unless an entire wing is gone or all the aft control surfaces are missing

Shamus

[RAM]

Maybe I didnt explained it well...the plane had the ENTIRE left wing destroyed and was falling out of control at all, in flames.

[Kieren]

No one is dead until there is a puff of smoke.  

[Trell]

I have seen Shamus get kills while having half a wing no engine and flaming .
imho  even if the plane is going strait down he may still be deadly. lots of times while cons are folowing and if take damage i will go strait down and even get into spins  to convince cons that i am dean. Then when i am clear i level out and go back to hunting.  With the abilty of players in this game if a plane has any chances at all  no mater how small  they can be deadly.

Btw with 6 calls  not every one can type well.
if the friendly is close i will try to clear his 6 or even fire a burst past him to make him look back
Its just the way i do it

                                Trell

[Swager]

As long as the bastiage is dead!

I stole one of Bloom's kills once!  Remember that Bloom????

Sourkrau stole one of mine,  I didn't get upset because I cannot shoot worth crap!!  He saved me the embarrasment of the con reversing on me and shooting me down!!      People I'm not joking, I'm a terrible shot!!

I had Sharky dead to nuts last week and he did that damn back and forth stuff with a P-51 and blew me out of the air!

Rocket was right on!!  IMHO! As long as the bastiage is DEAD!!!  If I can knock off an aierlon and that helps someone else get that kill, that is super!  Frankly I don't give a rats butt!  Even though I did pick on Sour for awhile.  He told me if I would quit messin around he wouldn't have to finish up my kills for me.  Ya know what? He was right!!      I do have a hard time saddling up!!  

This is all my opinion, what I believe.  Noone is right or wrong!  Things like this will happen so ya have to learn to deal with it.  Just like the impossible turns I seen a particular Spit do tonite. Again!      Someday I will get a film of it!

I'm gona start stealing some of Ripsnort's kills.  Just follow him around.  Yea!  Both him and Weazel!    

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"Damn.....I can't believe I missed that shot!!!"
 
JG2 "Richthofen"

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[Gator]

LOL!     Swager, you're too much!  


 

[Mighty1]

I was on when Ram got angry but after we discussed what had happened on private he apologized for blowing up. <S> to him for that.

Now for the Kill stealing that goes on well I must say that it bugs the crap outta me.

You work and work to take a guys wings off then pull up to save ammo and/or alt only to see a teammate fly down and blow him up before he hits the ground.

I even got to a point were I was telling everyone the guy is dead so they won't go after them but to no avail.

The bad part is that it's not just the newbies who do it. I've seen some of the so called Vets follow behind people so they can get the easy kills.

I'm not big on scores but it really gets me when I have to waste ammo on a dead plane just so I don't pad someone else's score.

I try not to say anything about kill stealing on open channel because all you get is the old comment "If he is in the air he is fair game".


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Mighty1
The New Baby Harp Seals

"Come try to club THIS Seal"

[Ripsnort]

 

Originally posted by Swager:
I'm gona start stealing some of Ripsnort's kills.  Just follow him around.  Yea!  Both him and Weazel!    

The way I've been flying lately, you might qualify for  food stamps after following me around!



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