Firefly

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by lazs2
One of the farscape women looks like a little boy and the other one has a very unfortunate face.

unfortunate face... great comment lasz2

[GtoRA2]

jeez guys its show!!


You know fantasy?



Besides, the modern ray gun makers were just making modern ray guns that look old school.

Its just one of those fads!


you know like bell bottoms coming back?

[Skuzzy]

Slimm50, where are you with my quote?  It is applicable.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by GScholz
Excuse me ... you're justifying that SPACE FARING people use ANCIENT weapons on account of them being cargo cults (a fallacy btw.)?

Since when is a comparison a fallacy?  I know, since never.

It is completely IDIOTIC since a good modern ray gun would COST LESS and be MORE AVAILABLE than pre-historic antiquities like lever action rifles and revolvers.

But you would have to have the either infrstructure to build them domestically, which these outer planets obviously don't, or the werewithall to transport them in.  And it just isn't worth it cost/benefitswise to ship them out, to these outter planets with there low demand (small populations).  Something that comes across in the series is the almost prohibitive cost of spaceship fuel.  And of course there is the risk of running into pirates or Reavers.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Skuzzy
Slimm50, where are you with my quote?  It is applicable.

I think you are in the wrong thread skuzzy

oh, and

OFF TOPIC!

[lasersailor184]

Did anyone even bother reading what I wrote about the guns?

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Did anyone even bother reading what I wrote about the guns?

and who are you?

[Thrawn]

No.  


PS: I imagine it would cost alot more to try and covert a current day firearm to be a laser weapon than just buying a laser weapon.

[Rino]

Originally posted by GScholz
Excuse me ... you're justifying that SPACE FARING people use ANCIENT weapons on account of them being cargo cults (a fallacy btw.)? It is completely IDIOTIC since a good modern ray gun would COST LESS and be MORE AVAILABLE than pre-historic antiquities like lever action rifles and revolvers.

Like I said even in Africa they don't use ancient weapons like that. It would cost them more than a good assault-rifle.

     They used a great deal of older weapons before our pals in
the USSR started giving away AKs.  Plus I imagine airtravel on
earth a bit faster relatively than space travel.

[lasersailor184]

Well, had you paid any attention, you would have caught how much the new laser guns cost.  So it obviously doesn't cost more to convert them.




Btw, Mal says the alliance doesn't know what's coming.

Do you think he means a Reaver Invasion?

[Dinger]

Okay, on the gun stuff:

Yeah, there are laser guns in firefly. And there are super-techno non-lethal force guns. And if you watch, you'll see that the laser guns are like my cellphone: lots of cool features that impress everyone until the battery dies, which it does rather soon. Likewise, the non-lethal force guns used by the cops are big crappy pieces of plastic that exhibit marginally superior performance when the butt rather than the muzzle is applied to the victim's head.


So yeah, gunpowder isn't going anywhere. We've got a simple chemical reaction that reliably produces a projectile moving at its target faster that the target can react. Unless you've got something cheaper, why not?

Sure, it's a TV show, and a lot of the crap is gonna be from the past or present with the hope that nobody notices. If you watch the late 70's "Buck Rogers", you'll see the Commodore PET being used at as a communications device. Contrary to what you may think, it ain't a show for gun nuts; after all, A gussied-up AK like Vera wouldn't need O2 to work.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by GScholz
I meant the "cargo cult" phenomenon is a fallacy, not your comparison.

Why, they didn't happen?  

[lazs2]

dinger pegged it... the gee wizz weapons are severly restricted by the government and they are seen but only in the hands of the most wealthy and are illegal... they also don't seem to be any more leathal or useful than a good lever gun that is easy to maintain and make ammo/parts for.

now... all the old weapons in the series are modified or modernized versions of old classics.   They are much better than what we have now.   In one episode they show both a laser gun and anti grav buggy and the modernized projectile weapons along with... two genuine antique weapons... one is a SW revolver and the other is a PPK both engraved and boxed and curios.

I would rather have one of these upgraded weapons than the silly farscape hi tech guns that seem to shoot roman candle like balls of somethimes leathal sometimes not whatevers that travel at dodgeball speeds.

Places like afganistan still had flintlock weapons in the late twenmtieth century untill a veritable flood of cheap russian and American full autos were dumped there by two governments.

lazs

[lazs2]

Ok..  so we all agree?  sholtzie is a commie puppet fan who wouldn't know good sci fi if it bit him on the butt.

and... he likes his women to have boys bodies..

lazs

[lazs2]

I meant the blue one.   If the camera adds 10 pounds she must weigh about 80 lbs.

really... you need to look at the women in firefly.

but.. Like I said.. I am not that fussy.. I would probly not kick any of the ones even in farscape out of bed.  

I just think puppets and blue people and lizard folk are kinda lame.

What was the other sci fi show that was on about the same time as the puppet one but came on late at night?  The one with the ship that looked like a big bug and could destroy a whole planet?   that was a fun one.

lazs