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« Reply #135 on: May 05, 2005, 04:38:02 PM »
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I assume you're talking about March AFB


I can actually add something I know to this thread.  March was a MAC base in the 90's (a SAC base in the 50-70's) The only fighter sqds' based there have been California ANG.

Now George AFB (gone) was a fighter base in So. Cal.

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« Reply #136 on: May 05, 2005, 06:35:27 PM »
What ever happened to F-105? 105 is the Air Force's equivalent to F-4 but how come there's NONE serving todeay?


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« Reply #137 on: May 05, 2005, 06:54:02 PM »
A jet Desigined as a tactical nuclear bomber.. on the 10 best fighters list?? LOL.. not hardly likely... till yah look at it's war record.

27 mig kills, & more combat sorties than any other plane that served in vietnam.

The more yah look at it, the Thud out F-4'ed the F-4 before there was an F-4.

Arrrrgh!
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« Reply #138 on: May 05, 2005, 07:47:57 PM »
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I can actually add something I know to this thread.  March was a MAC base in the 90's (a SAC base in the 50-70's) The only fighter sqds' based there have been California ANG.

Now George AFB (gone) was a fighter base in So. Cal.


     George was the main Wild Weasel base, flying F-4Gs and Es.
As an aside to Mini-D, the F-4G was a more capable SEAD than
the F-16 that replaced.  Oh yeah, Gs also served very successfully
in the Gulf in 91....not that Mini-D gonna let that influence his
prejudices.

     The germans must still be using the Phantoms because I read
a few months ago that they were replacing the E models at Luke
with F models for their training.
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« Reply #139 on: May 05, 2005, 08:41:03 PM »
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Originally posted by Rino
George was the main Wild Weasel base, flying F-4Gs and Es.
As an aside to Mini-D, the F-4G was a more capable SEAD than
the F-16 that replaced.  Oh yeah, Gs also served very successfully
in the Gulf in 91....not that Mini-D gonna let that influence his
prejudices.

     The germans must still be using the Phantoms because I read
a few months ago that they were replacing the E models at Luke
with F models for their training.


are they replacing the original engine with somthing from F-18/15/ and 16?

if i remember, the original F-4 engine suck lots of juice and produce that infamous smoke trails!

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« Reply #140 on: May 05, 2005, 08:54:37 PM »
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are they replacing the original engine with somthing from F-18/15/ and 16?

if i remember, the original F-4 engine suck lots of juice and produce that infamous smoke trails!


alot of the old timers in the shop that used to work them say they went to a "smokeless" engine in the 70s.

In adition we have them fly iin and out of here every now and then from mojavi.  They are in the process of conveting them into target drones.  On take off one of the engines on the F4 failed and the pilot just powered up the other one and kept goin.

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« Reply #141 on: May 05, 2005, 09:54:08 PM »
One of my favourite oldies, theres just something that say"I'm gonna kick sand in your face" about em....




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« Reply #142 on: May 06, 2005, 08:43:33 PM »
The show was so full of glaring errors it was absurd.

The idiot with the gerry curl who was supposed to be some sort of history expert was a total loss.

The clown from Jane's. or maybe formerly from Jane's was just as freaking stupid.

Goering did not see P-51's of any sort over Berlin in March of 1943. And not in March of 1944 either. The U.S. fighters over Berlin in 1944, the first U.S. fighters over Berlin period, were P-38's, not P-51's. That's just the biggest of many errors that sticks out like a sore thumb at a carpenter's convention.

The retired Air Force pilot was the only guy on the show who did not have his entire head up his arse. But I'm not sure he was a great choice either.

I watched it because my computer was down and I couldn't fly. It's still down. Thank God there's an air show here locally, and a couple of night races on.
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« Reply #143 on: May 06, 2005, 10:38:57 PM »
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10 Me 109E-4
9   Me 109F-4
8   Me 109T
7   Me 109 G-2
6   Fw 190A-2
5   Fw 190A-4
4   Fw 190A-5
3   Me 109G6
2   Me 109G-10
1   Fw 190A-8

WHAT?

No 109K on your list. You are obviously biased against the Luftwaffe aircraft!

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« Reply #144 on: May 06, 2005, 10:43:44 PM »
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As far as I've been able to find, the P-61 sustained no combat loses in any theater during the second world war, so that should make for quite a nice kill ratio, no?

Best K/D ratio of WWII fighters was the F6F. I do not know if that discounts night or multi-creweed planes or not.