Author Topic: Top 10 All Time Fighters (Read 2791 times)

Hangtime · « **Reply #15 on:** April 30, 2005, 04:30:30 AM »

Straffo, America's only combat aircraft made in America was the DH.4, built under license with Liberty engines in 'em.. about 3,300 of 'em delivered by the time the armistice was signed.

Our first squadrons in France flew Neuiports.. till the DH.4's arrived.

Skydancer · « **Reply #16 on:** April 30, 2005, 05:33:48 AM »

1 Spitfire
2 p51Mustang
3 Bf 109
4 Fw190
5 Hurricane
6 Zero
7 F16
8 Harrier
9 Mig
10 Me 262

I like the roar of a piston engine so the jets get relegated!

Schaden · « **Reply #17 on:** April 30, 2005, 05:44:17 AM »

Albatross D3 - cause of Bloody April in 1916.....

bunch · « **Reply #18 on:** April 30, 2005, 06:03:37 AM »

you sure the USAAC didnt want the d7 because it was war booty (cheap)...this wasnt the 1950's airforce

Furball · « **Reply #19 on:** April 30, 2005, 06:06:41 AM »

Se5a, LA5, 109, Fokker E.I, 190, Hurricane should be there.

how the fug did the Mig-15 make the list?

If phantom is there, why no Mig-21?

scott123 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 30, 2005, 06:17:48 AM »

No Mig 15,No Yak 3/9 and what about Lagg 5 & Lagg 7

Gixer · « **Reply #21 on:** April 30, 2005, 07:38:30 AM »

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Originally posted by scott123
No Mig 15,No Yak 3/9 and what about Lagg 5 & Lagg 7

Suprising that no Russian fighters made the list. Especially the latest from Sukhoi which are far superior to any Teen series US fighters.

~~...-Gixer~~

Staga · « **Reply #22 on:** April 30, 2005, 07:51:59 AM »

1) Bf109: from the beginning to the bitter end.
2) Spitfire: same reason w/109 but less manufactured
3) MiG-21: this is a classic. +11000 manufactured and still in active use in 33 countries.

There's Gold, Silver and Bronze; rest are worthless.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #23 on:** April 30, 2005, 09:18:49 AM »

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Originally posted by bunch
you sure the USAAC didnt want the d7 because it was war booty (cheap)...this wasnt the 1950's airforce

Nope, they were thinking of setting up production in the USA with US engines, not of taking old german ones. The plane was that good nd was a viable fighter well into the 1920s.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #24 on:** April 30, 2005, 09:19:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Furball
Se5a, LA5, 109, Fokker E.I, 190, Hurricane should be there.

how the fug did the Mig-15 make the list?

If phantom is there, why no Mig-21?

Because the list is a retarded historch cannel gimmick? Same answer to GS..

Staga · « **Reply #25 on:** April 30, 2005, 10:57:43 AM »

(Paints X in the wall...)

I agree with Grün.... History Channel is made for masses and not for average simmer who knows the differences between 109F and G or P-51A and B.
Nice and entertaining channel but that's all.

Replicant · « **Reply #26 on:** April 30, 2005, 11:04:52 AM »

That top ten is pretty good, I would probably agree with most although how did the F22 make the Top Ten? It's not even been tried and tested yet? Incidently, one of the F22 chief test pilots got to fly the Eurofighter and he described both aircraft as evenly matched; he couldn't seperate them at all.

Also surprised to see the Sea Harrier FA2. Probably because of all the ACM dogfights it used to do against other nations. It would often beat even the best fighters, including the F15, F16 and F18. The Military Channel may have included Sea Harrier FRS.1 stats too?

straffo · « **Reply #27 on:** April 30, 2005, 11:10:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Straffo, America's only combat aircraft made in America was the DH.4, built under license with Liberty engines in 'em.. about 3,300 of 'em delivered by the time the armistice was signed.

Our first squadrons in France flew Neuiports.. till the DH.4's arrived.

I knew it was Nieuport but I thought they were build in the US.

Mini D · « **Reply #28 on:** April 30, 2005, 11:21:19 AM »

The F-22 is revolutionary with it's ability to supercruise. Combat experience or not, that makes the list.

I don't agree with the Camel being on the list... I don't recall it being anything near dominating in WWI. It was, however, manufacturable. I see it's presence on par with putting a Soviet T-34 on the list of best tanks. It deserves to be there, but it's manufacturability was it's greatest asset. It seems there were other WWI aircraft that were far better.

The F-4 is another oddity on the list. The only thing remarkable about it was that it was used by all branches of the U.S. millitary. It did everything OK, but nothing great. It's weapons system was innadequate given the poor reliability of the missiles in high temperature/hummidity environments at the time and the fact that it didn't have a canon. Hell... I'd rank the A-4 skyraider above the F-4.

I do think the F-15C should be ranked 1st though. Maybe it could slip to #2 if someone were to actually shoot one down.

Pongo · « **Reply #29 on:** April 30, 2005, 11:48:32 AM »

Im retiring from the board.
when mini and gh can speak for me its time to go.
(dont know about the F22 though, so complex that it might be an abolute failure in war conditions, whew..guess I get to stay.)