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Offline Udie

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« on: March 07, 2001, 07:39:00 AM »
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=004500667862225&rtmo=VkkxFu1x&atmo=rrrrrrrq&pg=/et/01/3/7/weuc07.html

 I'd be PISSED if I lived in Europe, and scared of the EU.  I think their true colors are starting to show.....

 What do you think?

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Offline Toad

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2001, 08:02:00 AM »
"The ruling stated that the commission could restrict dissent in order to "protect the rights of others" and punish individuals who "damaged the institution's image and reputation". The case has wider implications for free speech that could extend to EU citizens who do not work for the Brussels bureaucracy."

You have GOT to be kidding me!

Why does this remind me of the "You MUST not HO!", the "Ban the -1C!", "Chute-Shooters must DIE!" threads?  

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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2001, 08:04:00 AM »
It'll be dealt with, there are other courts of laws.

Let's let it play out before we jump to conclusions  

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2001, 08:35:00 AM »
Ok, you take unpaid leave from your company, write a book about how rotten you think their business practices are and then expect them to take you back with open arms?

This guy wasnt elected by anyone..he was employed by the EU.

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Offline Toad

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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2001, 08:43:00 AM »
"The case has wider implications for free speech that could extend to EU citizens who do not work for the Brussels bureaucracy."

Not unusual to get fired for "dissing" the boss in public. No big deal there.

It's THIS part that's scary.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2001, 11:40:00 AM »
I think the key word in that phrase is "could". This is the opinion of the author and not a statement of EU fact.

Importantly, The Daily Telegraph is Euro-sceptic and considered a Conservative publication.

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2001, 12:18:00 PM »
link broken    

Link finally worked.

I find the fact that a court has held an individual responsible for his opinion, absent any indication of slander, libel, real damage or intent to damage very disconcerting. The wording quoted by the article was very indicative of an attempt to censure simply on the basis of a disagreement with the current government policies. It didn't indicate the usual type of restricted speech such as yelling fire in a crowded theater or incitement to riot.

I agree that this needs to be played out in the courts. I hope that another court would take a dramatically different stance. If not, it seems that merely being in disagreement with a Euro government entity and speaking about it may be a criminal act.

Scary thought indeed. Beware Santa.....  

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2001, 04:26:00 PM »
 
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Let's let it play out before we jump to conclusions

Fancy that...what an interesting idea, maby everybody should have that shaved into their heads.


oh wait nevermind, its about time euros were on the recieving end  
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Offline mrfish

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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2001, 04:39:00 PM »
yeah....it is kinda nice not havin to show your passpot all the time though when you travel there - except for lichtenstein! what the hell is up with lichtenstein that they have to be so fussy at the border?
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2001, 03:30:00 AM »
hummm

we have european court  

but american have Bush jr  

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Offline Mighty1

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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2001, 08:20:00 AM »
Beats Bore.  
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Offline StSanta

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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2001, 08:26:00 AM »
I should have run for president of the US.

Lots would vote for me just for shock value.

And if not that, wouldn't you rather have me than Hillary as a senator?

"beer and state sponsored AH. Nudity included" would be my motto.

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Offline Udie

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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2001, 12:16:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by nonoht:
hummm

we have european court    

but american have Bush jr    

 Wow I never looked at it like that.  Glad I'm over here. WHEW!

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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2001, 03:37:00 PM »
If Bush doesn't work, he's out on his bellybutton in 4, how about your courts? :P

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Offline Toad

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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2001, 03:39:00 PM »
Lol Pzvg!

How true, how true!

...and his own party will lead the his parade out of town.  

Gotta love this system.  

On the other hand I get the feeling the justices of the EU court are all meeting in some Munich beer hall to talk about "the way it ought to be".  
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