Nuke, reason (logic) and faith are two different belief systems. They are incompatible, no one can logically prove the existance of God.
One must take the illogical leap of faith to believe. Jesus even noted "blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe."
So having a logical discussion about religion is a self contained contradiction.
However, I did hear once of a man, Hans Grapje, who was raised in a Catholic school in The Hague.
As a young man, aspired to become a priest, but was drafted into the Army during WWII and spent two years copiloting B17's until his aircraft was shot down in 1943, when he lost his left arm. Captain Grapje spent the rest of the war as a chaplain, giving spiritual aid to soldiers, both Allied and enemy.
After the war, he became a priest, serving as a missionary in Africa, piloting his own plane (in spite of his handicap) to villages across the continent. In 1997, Father Grapje was serving in Zimbabwe when an explosion in a silver mine caused a cave-in. Archbishop Grapje went down into the mine to administer last rights to those too severely injured to move. Another shaft collapsed, and he was buried for three days, suffering multiple injuries, including the loss of his right eye. The high silver content in the mine's air gave him -purpura-, a life-long condition characterized by purplish skin blotches.
Although Cardinal Grapje devoted his life to the service of God as a scholar, mentor and holy man, church leaders agree: He will never ascend to the Papacy.
No one wants a one-eyed, one-armed, flying purple Papal leader.
