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Offline 1K3

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new P-47 and P-51 variants.
« on: May 13, 2005, 05:40:20 PM »
lol do we really need xtra varaints? most of the late war USAAF ETO planesets are filled with no gaps.
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i think all 109s should be remodeled next after the P-47/P-51 (i also think they should add 109G-14 and F6F-3 to our variant list)

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2005, 05:44:30 PM »
Pyro didn't say it's a P-47 and P-51 variant.

 It could be anything. A gap-filler such as the Bf109G-14... a LF Spitfire... A6M-3...

 Or maybe(highly likely IMO) a P-47C, since if the ToD will be based on the USAAF, even the P-47D-11 we have would be too 'late' a fighter. Since the Fw190's have been redone and its standards have been, perhaps it could be the Ta152H this time.. or maybe even a Fw190A-3, for the very early 190s of the English Channel?

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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2005, 05:54:30 PM »
I thought Pyro implied it would be new variants of the '51 and '47, but I may have misinterpreted his meaning.

My guess the P-51B would get a Malcolm hood, and the P-51A or A-36 would be modelled.   For the P-47, maybe we'd see a P-47M or N?

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2005, 06:19:54 PM »
The M or N would be pointltess for ToD.

Something like an early D or maybe a C so that it could have its historic and expanded roll in ToD.

But if they are looking at bringing variants for ToD then they missed an opportubnity to add an A-3 or A-4 and an A-6 when they re-worked the 190s.

A P-51C with a malcom hood wouldn't necessarily mean a new variant per se. Just adapt the B.

Maybe a P-36 or a P-51A both would have rolls in ToD..

A G14 or G-14/AS would be great but I wouldn't count on that (at least for some time).

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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2005, 06:49:42 PM »
I just assume when Pyro says they are working on redoing the P51 and P47 right now, and then says this in the same paragraph

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Because of the amount of help that they are providing us, we’re going to try to take some of that time savings and spin off some new variants.


that it means he is talking about the same planes, not additional ones.  Of course, we all know what assuming does, but that was the message I got.

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Re: new P-47 and P-51 variants.
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2005, 07:52:48 PM »
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Originally posted by 1K3
lol do we really need xtra varaints? most of the late war USAAF ETO planesets are filled with no gaps.
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i think all 109s should be remodeled next after the P-47/P-51 (i also think they should add 109G-14 and F6F-3 to our variant list)


     Don't see any reason to exclude them, other than it will make
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2005, 08:52:26 PM »
where does it say ANYWHERE on this site theres going to be new P47/51 variants?:confused:
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2005, 10:02:52 PM »
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where does it say ANYWHERE on this site theres going to be new P47/51 variants?


 Pyro's latest news.

 
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Because of the amount of help that they are providing us, we’re going to try to take some of that time savings and spin off some new variants.


 Sorry Star, I don't get any of what you're getting. All Pyro mentions is he'll 'spin off some new variants.'

 What new variant of the P-47 or P-51 would ever be fit for HTC's high priority ToD - which they mentioned that it will start out with the 8th AF vs the LW over ETO?

 Like I mentioned and Wotan agreed, only a P-47C or a very early D would ever be really needed. I dunno how I coulda forgotten about the Fw190A-6, but this plane also has a very good chance to be introduced. It was a major variant, essentially very simular to the Fw190A-5, but wields 4x MG151/20s instead of 2x MG-FF + 2x MG151/20s.

 All they would need is use the same model, add some increased weight for the 2x MG151/20, and then label it "A-6".

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2005, 03:32:45 AM »
We still miss the P51 with the 4 hispanos, early P51s, another D variant....

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2005, 03:50:09 AM »
P-51H!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2005, 10:38:29 AM »
For TOD if they made new variants of all planes they have up to AH2 standards, I would think they would need an early B24, P47C and more 190's

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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2005, 11:16:50 AM »
Pyro was clearly talking about the planes *being worked on right now*. The way the community skinners are helping with all the work skinning means that HTC staff can add new variants on the planes being put out while the skinners are finishing skinning it (it's like having 4 free extra employees, you can do more).

He was talking about P51s/47s if they implement new variants this time. If he was talking about "in general we're going to do this" then it means whichever planes are currently being upgraded. Hypothetically they redo 109s next, then it might be a 109E-1 (which I'd love to see!!) or a G14, etc etc.

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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2005, 04:51:05 PM »
So now you guys not only whine about plane's that aren't being done, you also whine about some extra ones that are being thrown in ?.  It's a funny world....
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2005, 05:21:51 PM »
He is probably just talking about new p-51 & p-47 SKIN variants.
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2005, 06:09:12 PM »
One P-51 variant Pyro may be referring to would be a Malcolm-canopied P-51b.  This has been discussed a number of times in the past.