Author Topic: Kitchen Knife Control...... (Read 679 times)

weaselsan · « **on:** May 27, 2005, 05:58:05 PM »

This is a bit of a Sticky Wicket.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

Torque · « **Reply #1 on:** May 27, 2005, 06:01:23 PM »

we need more threads about this...to feel good inside.

weaselsan · « **Reply #2 on:** May 27, 2005, 06:08:03 PM »

I wonder how many items that are manufactured that one person could use to do harm to another that we can ban? Hundreds? Thousands?

Sparks · « **Reply #3 on:** May 27, 2005, 06:12:58 PM »

ROFLMAO. You beat me to it Weasal.

I think we'll also be banning pointy sticks, forks, knitting needles, bricks, heavy paperweights ................

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #4 on:** May 27, 2005, 06:19:02 PM »

LMAO oh man thats just plain sad.

Wonder whats next? Pencils?

Meatwad · « **Reply #5 on:** May 27, 2005, 06:33:42 PM »

How about automobiles, they got to cause a ton of deaths and injuries from drunkies.

vorticon · « **Reply #6 on:** May 27, 2005, 06:45:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Meatwad
How about automobiles, they got to cause a ton of deaths and injuries from drunkies.

easier to toss breathalyzer in every car.

Toad · « **Reply #7 on:** May 27, 2005, 07:09:01 PM »

That might get half of the motor vehicle abusers. I'm afraid after butterknives, cars simply must be next. It's the only way; sorry.

You'd walk to the grocery to save 2,000 lives a year wouldn't you?

stantond · « **Reply #8 on:** May 27, 2005, 07:09:05 PM »

I firmly believe chef's knives should be treated similar to handguns. As such, any countries or states which have handgun restrictions should only allow such knives to persons who can demonstrate responsible use, such as chef's. A chef's license should not be very difficult to get. However, after the first time you kill a spouse the criteria should be more strict. Poisoning a spouse and cast iron cookware bludgeonings are an automatic misdermenor, no exceptions. Tire iron bludgeonings should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

Regards,

Malta

lazs2 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 27, 2005, 07:39:45 PM »

don't a lot of euros die from soccer riots? Banning soccer seems a reasonable thing... after all.. we have a defacto ban here and as you see our percapita soccer riot fatalities are much lower than the euro barbarians.

lazs

Nashwan · « **Reply #10 on:** May 27, 2005, 07:40:05 PM »

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You'd walk to the grocery to save 2,000 lives a year wouldn't you?

No. Walking means the return of small shops, not supermarkets, which means higher prices for food, less nutrition, more deaths.

Walking to work means more wasted time, lower paid jobs, less money, less nutrition, more deaths.

Cars, unlike guns, actually reduce deaths.

lazs2 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 27, 2005, 07:43:11 PM »

oh? good point. since guns prevent from 1.5-3 million crimes a year here... even if 1% would have ended in a fatality without the firearm... then guns do indeed save lives.

The deterrent effect that interviewed convicts admit to is very high to but hard to quantify.

lazs

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #12 on:** May 27, 2005, 07:46:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Nashwan
Cars, unlike guns, actually reduce deaths.

Ever hear of Global Warming? Cars will be the death of us all.

Toad · « **Reply #13 on:** May 27, 2005, 07:58:23 PM »

Goodness me.

From all you hear about the benefits of earlier times of small towns and closely knit communities, one would think the elimination of the automobile would be a huge social benefit. Think of all the lives saved from less stress.

Back to the horse and buggy!

It may be tough at the beginning... but we'll save thousands and thousands of lives.

After we get rid of the knives, of course.

Nashwan · « **Reply #14 on:** May 27, 2005, 08:32:10 PM »

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From all you hear about the benefits of earlier times of small towns and closely knit communities, one would think the elimination of the automobile would be a huge social benefit. Think of all the lives saved from less stress.

Have a look at the average life expectancy pre-car.

Cars have resulted in greater mobility, productivity, efficiency, all of which have led to higher standards of living and better health.

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Back to the horse and buggy!

It may be tough at the beginning... but we'll save thousands and thousands of lives

Going back to victorian standards of living isn't going to save lives, it will cost millions.

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Ever hear of Global Warming? Cars will be the death of us all.

I doubt that somehow.

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oh? good point. since guns prevent from 1.5-3 million crimes a year here... even if 1% would have ended in a fatality without the firearm... then guns do indeed save lives.

1%? 1% of your crimes are murders?

I don't think so.

According to the DOJ, there were about 24,000,000 crimes in the US in 2003, out of which there were about 15,000 murders. That's 0.0625%.

If guns prevented 3 million crimes, that's 1,875 murders.

The US has about 15,000 murders a year, about 10,000 more than would be expected by a per capita comparison with Britain.

And by the way, if guns can prevent crimes, can't guns carry them out as well? So why the claim "guns don't kill people, people kill people"?

The truth is guns didn't prevent 1 - 3 million crimes, people with guns did.

I'd be very interested in seeing how many crimes people without guns prevented, and doing a comparison to see how much more (or less) likely you are to prevent a crime if you have a gun than if you don't. (I've prevented a couple, no gun needed)

Edit: crime figures are from the DOJ, not FBI, as the FBI record only a portion of reported crime (all the most serious, very few of the least serious)