Author Topic: Kitchen Knife Control...... (Read 678 times)

Sparks · « **Reply #15 on:** May 27, 2005, 09:06:31 PM »

Actually this could provide an unexpected boost to the US economy. As the only people left with guns to shoot the animals and knives to cut them up you can expect a surge in demand for sliced beef / pork etc. In fact frozen chopped vegetables as well !!
Of course sales of elastoplast dressing will plummet costing jobs, but that is a small price to pay.
Also model making and craft of any kaind will now be a banned activity and put you at risk of criminal prosecution. Carpenters will be considered terrorist suspects.
Butchers will have to provide secure facilities up to EU standards with all knives serial numbered and registered with the police. Cleavers will have to be fitted with GPS tracking and be stored in armoured vaults.
All tree felling and log chopping will be carried out by specially trained units of the army.
Leatherman and Victorinox will be banned companies - any association with those companies will be considered terrorist activity.
There will be a scissor amnesty during which you may exchange your metal scissors for plastic round tipped ones.
Dining cutlery must be declared anually and all new cutlery will be taxed at 300%.

For the love of god where will it stop ..............

Toad · « **Reply #16 on:** May 27, 2005, 10:14:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Nashwan
Have a look at the average life expectancy pre-car.

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You're not seriously going to propose that it was Henry Ford that increased life expectancy?

I think we'd better lean towards the scientists that discovered improvements in sanitation, medicine and agriculture.

And we're not giving up those improvements in the least. We're just going to walk much more, which all the docs will tell you is a good thing for increasing life expectancy even further.

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Cars have resulted in greater mobility, productivity, efficiency, all of which have led to higher standards of living and better health.

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And those standards won't change. We'll still let duly authorized government officials drive cars. Ambulances, for example. However, it's clear that the "common man" neither has the necessary expertise and judgement to drive nor the need to drive. We're long past the time where public transport should be handling 90% of societies needs.

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Going back to victorian standards of living isn't going to save lives, it will cost millions.

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You'll be thanking us when the needless auto-related deaths are minimal, you're much healthier because you walk more and the air you breathe is far cleaner.

Trust nanny. She'll take care of you.

But remember... first we have to deal with the butterknives. Then the cars. After that, alcohol and tobacco.

wetrat · « **Reply #17 on:** May 27, 2005, 10:43:55 PM »

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Originally posted by vorticon
easier to toss breathalyzer in every car.

Ever had a drunk guy standing beside a car ask you to come start it for him?

beet1e · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2005, 04:59:13 AM »

Nashwan is right. Cars save lives - including mine. I had life saving emergency surgery once. I was driven to the hospital in a car. The surgeon, radiologist and anaesthetist (<--can't even attempt the US spelling) all arrived there by car, as did most of the nursing staff. The hospital was about 10-15 miles from home; I don't think I'd have got there in time if I'd had to walk, especially as I was unfit to walk by then. A buggy and trap might have made it, but only by going down the freeways - built for cars.

Lazerus · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2005, 05:45:49 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Nashwan is right. Guns save lives

I agree whole heartedly.

~~Nashwan~~

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #20 on:** May 28, 2005, 07:09:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Nashwan
Have a look at the average life expectancy pre-car.

Cars have resulted in greater mobility, productivity, efficiency, all of which have led to higher standards of living and better health.

Going back to victorian standards of living isn't going to save lives, it will cost millions.

Look at the life expectancy pre-gun. The life expectancy of the average human in western civilization has just about doubled since the advent of firearms.

You can attach life expectancy to a lot of inventions. Trains, powered ships, airplanes, radios, telephones, telegraphs, or any number of others.

Any of them is just as viable as the automobile. If not more.

NONE of them have any DIRECT bearing on life expectancy.

The only thing your argument does is make people with good common sense laugh.

lazs2 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 28, 2005, 09:41:05 AM »

nashwan... real convoluted logic there... The fact is that we don't know how many murders we would have if criminals were not stopped by citizens with guns millions of times a year. Guns are very useful and save lives.

By your logic we should do away with cars because the save a few lives but kill like 40,000 or so a year here. and... the ones that save lives could be done away with if we had a better ambulance and air/lifeflight system... just as firetrucks are better for putting out fires than a car with a 2 lb fire extinguisher..

The only real difference is that you like cars and hate/fear firearms or are jealous of our rights. I think you also know that if it is realized that freedom often costs lives then your whole position on guns evaporates.

We simply differ in that you believe in more government control than I do... so long as it isn't control over something you like...

lazs

beet1e · « **Reply #22 on:** May 28, 2005, 12:59:51 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
We simply differ in that you believe in more government control than I do... so long as it isn't control over something you like...

Who is "We"? Are you speaking for all Americans? Are you saying that all Americans support private gun ownership? Your legislators seem to disagree...

As for knives, I import all my nasty ones from France. I've got a couple of evil looking ones, including a "couteau à surgèles" - whatever that means - good for cutting up fish, which is why I bought it - at Carrefour.

john9001 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 28, 2005, 01:29:12 PM »

what beetle did not tell you is he had to get a special permit for the knives and show a "need to own".

and when he's not cutting fish, he has to keep them locked up in a knife safe.

beet1e · « **Reply #24 on:** May 28, 2005, 02:02:20 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
what beetle did not tell you is he had to get a special permit for the knives and show a "need to own".

and when he's not cutting fish, he has to keep them locked up in a knife safe.

Maverick · « **Reply #25 on:** May 28, 2005, 08:22:32 PM »

Well beetle since brits can't be trusted with large knives you should turn yours in. After all I'm sure that doctor is very well educated and knows better than you do about it. Turn all those sharp knives in now.

beet1e · « **Reply #26 on:** May 29, 2005, 04:38:20 AM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
Well beetle since brits can't be trusted with large knives you should turn yours in. After all I'm sure that doctor is very well educated and knows better than you do about it. Turn all those sharp knives in now.

No it's OK. As long as I have a qualified user (ie someone who can cook) standing within arm's length of me, it's all perfectly legal.

storch · « **Reply #27 on:** May 29, 2005, 05:21:55 AM »

well it looks like there will soon be kitchen knife clubs where you can keep your knives safely locked under supervision and admire them on the weekends.

lazs2 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 29, 2005, 09:09:07 AM »

I am not asking for a ban on kitchen knives... Just some sensible control measures to make sure that only the right people have em..

A ten day waiting period and background check is not too much to ask.

$300 licence fee and having a secure safe weighing at least 800 lbs, seems fair.

having to have someone of royalty sign your application to vouch for your integrety seem fair.

The local plice chief should have to sign your application and be liable if you ever commit a crime with the knife.

lastly and most importantly...anyone every accused of inuring a female in an arguement would be denied a permit just like all the other violent criminals.

ohh... and yes... I do speak for "all Americans" least all the ones that aren't shrill liberals. 50% of all households in America have a firearm in em... and that is only the ones who are admiting it... Since they are illegal in some major cities I bet it is hard to get people to say yes in the survey eh?

lazs

XrightyX · « **Reply #29 on:** June 01, 2005, 06:13:25 PM »

I thought it was only WAshington, DC that had a city-wide ban on guns.

NYC was considering it, but never went through I believe.

Just moved to S.F. here. Surprisingly, you can carried a concealed weapon!

Will defer to anyone that can actually find the law/bill banning guns, but I spent some time looking it up before I moved....

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