The most racist culture in the world is???

[DrDea]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
France

  Their not racist.Just amazingly obnoxious and rude.

[JB88]

i only recently met one of those french people.  his name is juneau and he is definately a jack ***.

alteratively, i have a good friend who resides in normandy.  great guy.  smarter than hell.

[1K3]

Originally posted by JB88
cuba.

definately.

huh....

Communism really took care of the race issue in Cuba. To them, it doesnt matter wheter you're "meztiso", black, or indigenous... "tu eres Cubano!"

[spitfiremkv]

Originally posted by Nash

When you break his words down into tiny bite-sized pieces, they slide off the fork like over-cooked pork. When broken down as such, not one of these assertions weathers a reasonable examination.

Taken as a whole? It looks like something, but you end up choking on it.

sorry for having an opinion and posting it here.  did you wake up with a dripping bootyhole again?

[Scherf]

Can't believe nobody took Saurdaukar's bait.

[Nash]

Originally posted by spitfiremkv
sorry for having an opinion and posting it here.

Nothing really wrong with that. Also nothing wrong with people telling you that your opinion is ill thought out. Oh what a wonderful world it would be if everyone did their own heavy lifting by thinking things through before just spewing it out here. Though I suppose it's actually part of what makes the ubb entertaining.

But if an opinion is to be worth anything, it is because of the sense that the opinion reached was the result of the careful consideration of things. Either evidenced in the post itself, or demonstrated by one's posting history. Neither of which were present in your post.

So it is just more "blaaarhhhgh". And there are people out there right now making a hell of a good living off of doing just that. There's no sense in just giving it away for free here. As far as this board is concerned, I'd say the market is already cornered.

[Hangtime]

some good stuff upthread.. and thanks fer tryin to keep it civil folks!!

Somebody pointed out nationalism... it's slippery texture often leads one to believe it's a very close cousin to racisim.

Are they?

My grandpa.. a wise old bastard who was a patriot to the very core of his being; once remarked to me that Nationalism is only a fart away from being the sheitte we call Racisim.

I think I disagree.. I can discerne a diffrence between the way I feel about my country vs how I feel about any racial group.. in this Nation, there are virtually ALL racial groups present; most members of which seem to be proud of their American Nation AND their racial heritage.

However, (and I suspect that this is what Gramps was refering to) there are Nations out there that seem to insist that their National Heritage is tied to a specific and defineable Race or Religion. They hold the purity and sanctity of their religion and race to be paramount, Nationality to them means not a country, but instead something darker.. more dangerous. Racial Purity, or Religious Zeal.

With that as a yardstick, what National entities are racist? Somebody leveled a finger at some Sub-Saharan African Nations as being 'Racist' (in this case 'tribal') by that yardstick.. looks like I'd have to agree. Another indicated that Japan has Racist leanings, I'd have to agree there too (how they ostracize non-racially pure citizens would be a crime in our country).

Then there's 'religious' bias.. some nations seem to treat 'non-believers' as second class citizens. Israel, India, Arab Nations come to mind...

But which nation would you think represents the biggest, most offensive (by american standards) culture of 'hate'.. be it religious, racial or tribal?

..and again, thanks for the reasoned non inflamatory replies..

[Pongo]

Of the signifigant nations in the world
I think it has to go to Japan and India.
The japanese are just racist period and wouldnt understand any point of view that presented it as a bad thing.

The indians not so much racist  as culturaly stuck in the middle ages as regards woman and the whold caste thing.

[Seagoon]

Hangtime,

Actually historically the great divider has always been the same from Babel onwards - language. While we may also be able to divide along lines of color or other characteristics, the most profound separator of people has always been language or dialect. That is one of the reasons why in forming a common nation you need to have a common language. In fact this was recognized from the very beginning by Empire builders such as Alexander who insisted that all the inhabitants of his domains speak a common Greek language (a simplified version of Attic Greek called "Koine" - this in turn became the lingua franca of the Ancient Med. and consequently the language of the New Testament).

Balkanization, or the dividing of peoples from one another even though they live in common geographic areas often proceeds via a refusal to adopt the common language, or an effort to stamp it out in their locale. You can see this in the radical division of Quebec from the rest of Canada. The foriegn language is inextricably associated with the old or alien culture.

This is one of the many reasons why people groups will never be assimilated into multi-ethnic first world nations such as the United States or Australia without also adopting the common language of that nation. Programs that allow them to function in the society using the language of the "old country" foster balkanization and further divide the people groups within that nation - which in turn fosters suspicion and racism on both sides of the line.

- SEAGOON

[Gixer]

Amazing this thread isn't closed yet. I guess it's because no one has really said anything anti American. Which is interesting considering the US's track record on the subject.


...-Gixer

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by Seagoon
Hangtime,

Actually historically the great divider has always been the same from Babel onwards - language. While we may also be able to divide along lines of color or other characteristics, the most profound separator of people has always been language or dialect. That is one of the reasons why in forming a common nation you need to have a common language. In fact this was recognized from the very beginning by Empire builders such as Alexander who insisted that all the inhabitants of his domains speak a common Greek language (a simplified version of Attic Greek called "Koine" - this in turn became the lingua franca of the Ancient Med. and consequently the language of the New Testament).

Balkanization, or the dividing of peoples from one another even though they live in common geographic areas often proceeds via a refusal to adopt the common language, or an effort to stamp it out in their locale. You can see this in the radical division of Quebec from the rest of Canada. The foriegn language is inextricably associated with the old or alien culture.

This is one of the many reasons why people groups will never be assimilated into multi-ethnic first world nations such as the United States or Australia without also adopting the common language of that nation. Programs that allow them to function in the society using the language of the "old country" foster balkanization and further divide the people groups within that nation - which in turn fosters suspicion and racism on both sides of the line.

- SEAGOON

Hunh. Never considered it from the aspect of language.. I have a very good frind who's latvian by heritage, but born and raised here. When he's with his parents he speaks latvian, when he's around us, it's english.

One afternoon he dropped by with the family in tow for a block-party BBQ. They stayed together, speaking latvian amongst themselves. It was like there was a little 'fence' around them.. finally I asked his father 'you speak english?' He said, 'yes, of course.' My response was.. 'so speak it here'. From that day to this I was never sure WHY I was annoyed at them.. now I know. Yer right! It fosters mistrust, widens the 'gulf' between the cultures.

Excellent points!

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by Gixer
Amazing this thread isn't closed yet. I guess it's because no one has really said anything anti American. Which is interesting considering the US's track record on the subject.


...-Gixer

Yah gixer, it's a discourse that runs close to the line.. an exchange of observations and ideas for the most part without venom.

hopefully, nobody will take yer bait.

[Gixer]

It's not bait, it's only cecause it's a discussion about other countries and racisim that it's still going otherwise it would of been shut by the 3rd post.


...-Gixer

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Gixer
Amazing this thread isn't closed yet. I guess it's because no one has really said anything anti American. Which is interesting considering the US's track record on the subject.


...-Gixer

US isnt alone with our track record. We're just one of the more recent

[Holden McGroin]

Question for Gixer:

The New Zealand wars, where in the mid 1800's the British Empire fought the Maori people...  was that racist?