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Offline Octavius

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« on: November 19, 2001, 07:41:00 PM »
can any of you do this?  is it possible?  

I used to have frequent lucid dreams when i was younger, but not so much anymore.  One dream that I really remember is after I saw the movie "Hook" with Robin Williams.  That same night I *knew* i was dreaming and I could do what i wanted to do.. such as fly around w/ robin williams as he did in the movie  :D .. to a certain degree.  Anyone else have similar experiences?

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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2001, 08:25:00 PM »
you have to practice it - it fun but i still inadvertantly wake myself up - it's hard to get good at but not impossible.

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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2001, 10:34:00 PM »
I have some on and off periods when I can control my dreams.

The most amazing part of it is that I KNOW im dreaming..but im not *sure* im dreaming. Know what i mean? Many times I find myself back in my old high school... and I dont act on what I know is a dream because... im not sure! Talk about the power of social behaviour! wow!

There are a few techniques for "preparing" yourself to take control of your dreams before going to sleep. The one that seems to work for me is concentrating on a dream i've had before (preferably a recent one), replaying it on my mind and telling myself over and over (in my mind of course) that that Is THE dream.

Sounds freaky, but it does work for me. Chances are, if you concentrate enough and your brain "decides" to help and dream THAT dream that night, you will be able to do whatever you want.

My greatest success so far was beating the crap out of a kid I hated in school, hopping on one of the cars in the parking lot and doing 180's on the soccer field. Man just remembering that bring a FAT smile on me face! Woot!

If you are going to try it, I suggest you try to memorize a few rules:

1) Dont try to READ anything in your dreams. Reading is handled by the logical (conscious) part of your brain. When you are in a dream state, your logical side isnt working. Making it work will actually make the dream stop and possibly wake you up. Dont try to add things up or do math either. Just follow your impulses.

2) Do NOT go beyond the boundaries of what you know. If you know the area you are in (say, your high school), but you really dont know what was inside the house owned by the old lady in FRONT of the school, DONT go into that house. Your brain has no memory to draw upon and will trigger the logical part of your brain, ending the dream. This also applies for feelings, sensations (example: if you've never kissed someone..french kissing that is, and you kiss someone in a dream you take control of.. the dream will stop).

This is long enough, dont want to sound weird here, but this is what i know works for me and things I know NOT to do while in a lucid dream.

Im still trying to catch a dream of Aces High.. and fly the pork killing every damn red icon and reading "Victory 1000 by Tac; You shot Down Citabria"

*wicked grin*

 :D  :D  :D

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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2001, 07:58:00 AM »
Slightly off-topic...

Whenever I have a flying dream, I'm always in an outstanding frame of mind for the rest of the day.

Sometimes in my dreams I'm flying my old Aeronca Champ, doing things it never could in real life...   :)

Sometimes, inexplicably, I fly by flapping my arms like crazy to get away from zombies. I have to get a running start, then leap and start flapping like mad with the zombies snapping at my heels. If I'm lucky, I make it to a rooftop   :D

Fascinating topic, Octavius


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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2001, 08:51:00 AM »
set your alarm to 30 to 45 minutes before you really have to get up and then hit snooze or 2nd alarm. In those 30 to 45 minutes you will dream alot and is a good time to try dream control.

Yes - flying dreams are the best.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2001, 09:54:00 AM »
Dr Keith Hearne's PhD
Dunno what that's like but I read the Dream Machine, and I reckon it's not bad if you want to read about a fairly serious scientific attempt at making a lucid dream machine and investigate lucid dreams - a bit sketchy on practical details of making a machine, and a bit Ooo-err dramatic pop science as far as I recall... (or maybe I got bored and skipped through it). But it beats the new age, crystal-toting duck-squeezers by being a least a bit scientific.

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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2001, 10:28:00 AM »
I remember reading once about a tribe in either Indonesia or New Guinea that taught its children from a very early age that the dream world was within yourself, and under your control. They are taught that if a tiger attacks in their dream to make themselves into an elephant....(sounding more like Indonesia). The jist of the article was that these children had almost no nightmares.

I tried this with my own children when they had nightmares, with varying degrees of success.

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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2001, 10:48:00 AM »
http://www.xs4all.nl/~pasquale/TTM/r1/index.html

Here's a good link.   These people on this BBS really go into depth about their experiences.  Some have it down to an art.  I find atleast 90% of this stuff is credible too!  I'm going to start researching this stuff.  If you are actually able to fully control you dreams, i suppose it could *possibly* give you bigger highs than even certain drugs can give you (not that I would know anything about that  :D)  very interesting stuff  :)

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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2001, 12:47:00 PM »
Reading lotsa porn just before your sleep helps too  :D

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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2001, 03:41:00 PM »
I've had a few lucid dreams. But not for a long while.

It's like virtual reality without the crappy LCD screens and the headache.  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2001, 04:33:00 AM »
Nevermind, I think the post fell below the standards of the bb
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2001, 11:53:00 AM »
I've had a few lucid dreams, and many flying dreams.

A few days ago, I dreamed that I was taking pictures at some kind of banquet.  At one point, I realized that I was dreaming, and it occured to me that when I awoke and developed the film, I would have the only photographs ever made of a dream.

Now, I can't find the darn film.   :)
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2001, 08:17:00 AM »
Woohoo!!! i tought i was strange good to know there are others like me   :cool:

Have controlled many dreams so far and had multiple very very very very strange uncontrollable dreams hehe  :)

On another note, when i have trouble to fall asleep i djust begin to think about AH and how i may improve my flying abilities, this puts me to sleep everytime hehe.
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2001, 05:51:00 AM »
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Originally posted by SwampRat:
WOW!!  To think I never really brought it up with anyone for fear of a trip to the looney bin!

  I was able to do this back in the mid 80's when I was in college.  It was and accident for the most part.  I had a "repetitive", almost nightly, dream which ALWAYS ended badly (nightmare really).  Eventually, due to the repetition, I realized I was dreaming while IN the dream.  At that point, I was able to totally control what was happening, an ability (awareness) that became the norm during any dream.  <heheh...naahhh, I won't go there>  To be honest, I sort of lost interest and got "out of practice" as mentioned in an earlier post.  I'm confident it wouldn't be hard to do again.

...sorry, lengthy post.  I also experience another, wierd sleeping thing.  Occasionally when I'm VERY tired, exhausted.  I'll begin to drift off and get to a state where I feel as though I'm falling or "getting heavy"..hard to explain.  It was horrifying the first few times it happened in my early teens as, I'm completely aware of what is happening around me but unable do anything.  I guess the easiest way to describe it is "being in a body coma".  Brain totally awake, bod totally asleep.  It's rare now but still a very wierd.  There's NOTHING quite so disturbing as not being able to do things like...move lol, open your eye's, or the worst, take a deep breath at will.  Anyone care to comment.

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Just read this post.  This is pretty interesting.  Several people (me included) report similar experiences in dreams.  The most likely case is that you are running/fighting someone or something but you just can't seem to move quickly or at all, almost as if you are in molasses.  I remember a psychology professor in college explaining this phenomena.  He said that when you are sleeping and in the state of sleep during which dreams occur (4 states of sleep I think, can't remember it's been awhile) your body is effectively disconnected from your brain.  A good analogy would be an electrical short from a controller to the device.  So that when the controller sends a command to the device the device won't respond.  This keeps you from physically acting out what you are doing in the dream (running etc.)  This is his explaination of the effect by the way...at any rate you sometimes get that "not responding" feeling during your dream....and can account for the feelings of heaviness.  I thought it was kinda cool myself. This concludes my tidbit for the day lol.  

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2001, 08:34:00 AM »
I have had that "stuck" feeling in several of my dreams...
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