Hate for everything Russian

[genozaur]

Originally posted by Mini D Actually, that government was overthrown and slaughtered. If I recall, we were evil for supporting them during that period.

And Stalin then slaughted the revolutionary government but it didn't help him much.

[genozaur]

Inflammatory/Troll

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by genozaur
The question was: WHY ? So, hang on well.

Nope. It wasn't.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by genozaur
May be, the reason of this hate is few incidents with Korean, Finnish or American planes? My God, a lot of such incidents happen every year, but Canadians and British don't hate Americans for friendly fire,

You don't get to play that card my friend.  The Americans tried the pilot responsible for the deaths of the Canadians soldiers in Afghanistan and then put their names on a monument to commemorate their sacrifice.  

Not nearly the same thing as blowing away civilians, and not saying so much as, "Oops".

[cpxxx]

Genozaur, when I first read your contribution I thought you might trolling.  I'm becoming more convinced when I read stuff like that.

You have to be kidding?

If not and if as you say you live in New York. What kind of closed world do you live in that makes you think anyone in America hates Russians.  Many hate Communists of any nationality, particularly American Communists for whom they reserve a special hatred. Because that is the way many have been brought up.

If you identify yourself as a Communist as you seem to in this quote

Why do they hate commies so much that even now want to send us in Gulag?

Then you will be hated. Not as a Russian but as a Commie which you seem to be.

Your attitude reminds me of those Americans, some on this BB who seem to think all foreigners out there hate Americans. I say the same thing to you as I would say to those Americans. Most people barely think about you enough to hate you.

I am inclined to think this is a troll, if not get out more and explore New York and America to what the people are really like. If you are in fact a Communist. I suggest you leave America and move to one of those Socialist paradises, Cuba or North Korea. You'll like it there. Not a whiff of  a free press to upset you.

I still think this is a troll, a good one but a troll.  

One other thing, troll or not, please use paragraphs. It's much better.

[Krusher]

I work with and have worked with many russians.  All of them are hard working family guys.  I cant tell much difference between russians and americans other than the accent and the weird sense of humor.

[genozaur]

Originally posted by Rino I hate that some Russians don't know how to use paragraphs. Guess that makes me a bad guy, huh?

Rino, my computers are under diligent control of the guys whose names I do not know. The bugs they implanted into my computers made inoperable all my printers and most of my text editors. And I do not have time to fix all that because I earn my living by hard manual labor. And do not think that I paranoidally blame the non-existent forces. I caught the guys a couple of times when leaving for work I accidentally forgot to log off my computer and on arrival home from work found out that some uninvited guests had entertained themselves by accessing my machine. (I have the equivalent of B.S. degree in computer-aided information systems). Maybe you are one of them. In this case keep on making me look rediculous.

[genozaur]

Originally posted by FUNKED1 A lot of us know people who suffered under Soviet oppression around the world.  Some people here even felt that opression directly, living in the countries that were terrorized by Soviet rule.   Others had Soviet puppet soldiers trying to kill or maim them, or knew someone who suffered that fate.   Or like me they had a close family member forced to travel thousands of miles and risk life and limb to stop communist invasion of a sovereign nation. There are people like this all over the world.  It's natural that there are still some hard feelings. Personally, I forgive any Russian who renounces communism, regardless of his past.  And obviously anyone too young to have been involved with communist atroticies should have no guilt or shame.  But none of them should forget what happened, and I will speak out against those who try to deny the facts.

FUNKY, I find your words very reassuring. The tyrant is in the grave for 52 years already, why to hang the label of "Stalinist" on people who weren't even born when Stalin died.

[genozaur]

Originally posted by Toad I don't hate Russians as a people. Au contraire; the ones I've met here are lots of fun and good folks. What I dislike is a person of any nationality that will deny obvious truth and excuse obvious unnecessary brutality. For example: Had the Soviet supporters admitted the murder... yes murder by ICAO standards.... was wrong there'd be no problem whatsoever. It's the unabashed attempts to deny such incidents or excuse them that is the cause of the problem. IMO. Katyn is another perfect example. The government of Russian has admitted the NKVD killed the Poles on Stalin's orders. They have supplied documentation. Yet there are those that continue to try deny and excuse it. THESE are the people that cause the problem.

Toad, I served in the Soviet air defence unit for two years. And, as I already told you, I am familiar with the letter and spirit (do not confuse with spirits) of the elite  PVO Strany. Stop thinking about the Soviet as well as about the Russian military as if they were/are the NKVD executioners. Do you know that marshal Zhukov personally arrested Beriya, the chief of Stalin's NKVD- MGB ? There are too many facts supporting my humble opinion that the Soviet Army and Navy were not a part of NKVD-MGB-KGB. I know that the letter of the Soviet Air Defence code was rather tough. But it did not allow the terrorists to carry out multiple hijackings. And probably the lax in the American air defence system enabled them to start new terror tactics in the blue sky of America. And my guess is that they were happy to find out that you do not shoot down the aircraft that violate the US airspace (I'm talking about that Cuban plane in Florida as an example). So much for that.

[genozaur]

Originally posted by cpxxx Genozaur, when I first read your contribution I thought you might trolling.  I'm becoming more convinced when I read stuff like that. You have to be kidding? If not and if as you say you live in New York. What kind of closed world do you live in that makes you think anyone in America hates Russians.  Many hate Communists of any nationality, particularly American Communists for whom they reserve a special hatred. Because that is the way many have been brought up. If you identify yourself as a Communist as you seem to in this quote  Then you will be hated. Not as a Russian but as a Commie which you seem to be. Your attitude reminds me of those Americans, some on this BB who seem to think all foreigners out there hate Americans. I say the same thing to you as I would say to those Americans. Most people barely think about you enough to hate you. I am inclined to think this is a troll, if not get out more and explore New York and America to what the people are really like. If you are in fact a Communist. I suggest you leave America and move to one of those Socialist paradises, Cuba or North Korea. You'll like it there. Not a whiff of  a free press to upset you. I still think this is a troll, a good one but a troll.   One other thing, troll or not, please use paragraphs. It's much better.

I am sure Vlad forgot the double parenthesis: "commies".

[Hangtime]

are you a communist?

are you a stalin apologist?

Rino, my computers are under diligent control of the guys whose names I do not know. The bugs they implanted into my computers made inoperable all my printers and most of my text editors. And I do not have time to fix all that because I earn my living by hard manual labor. And do not think that I paranoidally blame the non-existent forces. I caught the guys a couple of times when leaving for work I accidentally forgot to log off my computer and on arrival home from work found out that some uninvited guests had entertained themselves by accessing my machine. (I have the equivalent of B.S. degree in computer-aided information systems). Maybe you are one of them. In this case keep on making me look rediculous.

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are you insane?

[Toad]

Originally posted by genozaur
So much for that.

So much for nothing.

Try to understand: the problem is not what your nation did at places like Katyn. ALL nations have black spots on their honor at some point  in time.

The problem is that there is no admission of guilt, no sorrow or repentance for the deed by the Russians that post here, again using Katyn as the example for brevity.

THAT is the problem. Funked spelled it out for you:

But none of them should forget what happened, and I will speak out against those who try to deny the facts.

And, as one who watched PVO Strany try and I emphasize try to fly formation on a 4-engine Boeing, I'm not real impressed with their supposed "elite" status. I can honestly state that the only time I was ever nervous while flying 20 miles off your coastline was when one of your fighters tried to fly formation with us. THAT was a scary thing to watch.

[RedTop]

genozaur




Crazier than a loon

[VOR]

[genozaur]

Originally posted by Hangtime are you a communist? are you a stalin apologist? are you insane? [/B]

NO, NO, and NO. But some guys (just like you) think YES, YES, and YES. And those idiots are paid from my own taxes.