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Offline Grits

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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2005, 11:18:29 AM »
I'll trade you 8 .303's for 2 MGFF 20mm's Storch. Is it a deal?
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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2005, 01:10:43 PM »
I enjoyed the CT last night. Absolutely. I should have taken a Tony though. Haven't flown the Ki-84 much though and started in it and stayed with it. Pretty capable aircraft but a Tony is more my style.

On the upcoming setup, I'm in rare agreement with Storch. I'll probably pass on this one simply due to the 110. I think it'll work out pretty much the way he paints it.

Personally, I have been unable to get my head to accept the clear contradiction of the historical record that the AH 110 represents. In the BoB, 110's were meat. Here, in BoB sets, they are nearly untouchable if flown carefully. Some would probably say "timidly".  ;)

It could be any one of several factors from the way they had to be flown in the war (mission orders) vs how they can be flown here.

In any event, in everyone of these sets that I've played, the 110 is the piece that doesn't fit the puzzle. For me anyway.

I'd love this set with 109's, hurris and spits. And I'll fly either side of that matchup with great pleasure. But with the 110's, as Storch lays it out, it's just not attracting me.

Sorry.
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2005, 01:15:53 PM »
that said, then the 110's should be limited to select fields requiring longer fly times to a fight
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2005, 02:01:49 PM »
Which would probably just mean they arrive at the area of engagement with an even greater altitude advantage, which makes them even more untouchable with a careful pilot at the controls. ;)

I'll probably peek in but it's all 110's vs the Brits it'll only be a quick peek.
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2005, 02:04:40 PM »
I dont think it will be all 110s, atleast i hope not. We can tweak it if it gets too silly.
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2005, 02:19:43 PM »
Have to agree.  In the historical role for BoB the 110s would only be bomber escort anyway, and we wont have the numbers to make them really useful in that role.  Simply flown as fighters, the cannons make them like flying tanks.  Dont leave them out entirely, but limit where they are available.
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2005, 02:36:32 PM »
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Have to agree.  In the historical role for BoB the 110s would only be bomber escort anyway, and we wont have the numbers to make them really useful in that role.  Simply flown as fighters, the cannons make them like flying tanks.  Dont leave them out entirely, but limit where they are available.

instead why not just always make every set up as allied and axis the B5N.   that should keep you crossdressing leg shavers very happy.  oh and don't forget to add lots of spitVs.  you guys will just never get it will you?
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2005, 02:49:34 PM »
Umm, you're right Storch.  I dont get it.  Unless its a Pac setup (and even sometimes if it is) I fly the Axis planes in CT out of preference.  If the F4U is available, I fly it.  If not, I'll likely be in a Japanese or LW plane.  I see no problem with flying a 109E to fight Spit I's.  Sure, I'd rather have an F, but I'll fly the E.

I'm not trying to be a smartass, I just really dont understand your reasons for being upset with this.  I know the ballistics on the axis guns could use some tweaking, but I've learned to live with it until it can be fixed.
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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2005, 03:11:19 PM »
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I'm not trying to be a smartass, I just really dont understand your reasons for being upset with this.


Must..........resist....

must....resist urge to make smartass remark....


MUST resis......
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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2005, 03:34:24 PM »
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anyone catch "Greatest Military Clashes" on the Military Channel last night?

It was about the spit and me109 matchup during BOB. Pretty good, it talked about the brit carb cutout & how the germans exploited it, and showed the damage difference btwn the brits mg rounds and the german cannon by actually firing the guns against metal targets setup to represent wings. Pretty much called the match-up a draw, leaving the winner to be determined by the pilot, not the plane.


This just started  on the Military Channel - catch it if you can
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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2005, 03:43:02 PM »
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Must..........resist....

must....resist urge to make smartass remark....


MUST resis......


Dont hold back Grits.  :)  I just said I was not trying to be one, I didnt say you had to resist the urge too lol.
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2005, 04:29:34 PM »
so when is the "official" switch over day/time for a new setup? It used to be first thing Friday morning ... still running last weeks setup
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2005, 05:38:13 PM »
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so when is the "official" switch over day/time for a new setup? It used to be first thing Friday morning ... still running last weeks setup

It's been switched, effective about 6:30 p.m. eastern time today.

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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2005, 05:40:20 PM »
I'll say it. It's that damn allied conspiracy to keep the lufties down.:lol
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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2005, 05:42:23 PM »
I enabled German planes at A47 and A48.  Now the only German base without planes is A45.  Let me know how it works out.

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