Explosions in London

[slimm50]

GreenCloud/ BigB...prayers to you and your cousin's family.

[ravells]

We were all expecting it. It happened.

Time to move on ... business as usual.

Ravs

[lazs2]

dowding.... I was raised a catholic.. why don't you ask me how I feel about terrorist attacks on civilians?   I don't know any catholics who condone IRA attacks against civilians.

The head of the catholic church... the pope... said years ago that attacks against civilians was murder.

lazs

[Raider179]

I am sorry Brits. Glad to know that you guys are gonna stick it out and not pull a Spain. You can always tell a strong country from a weak country when something like this occurs.

[lazs2]

I am a little disturbed by the "30,000 african children died of poverty today" thing tho..

first off... how do you die of poverty?

second... that is like..... 300,000 in 10 days... about a million a month... 12 millon a year...  how many children they got over there?   they should be running out anytime soon I would think.

lazs

[slimm50]

Originally posted by lazs2
I am a little disturbed by the "30,000 african children died of poverty today" thing tho..

first off... how do you die of poverty?

second... that is like..... 300,000 in 10 days... about a million a month... 12 millon a year...  how many children they got over there?   they should be running out anytime soon I would think.

lazs

that's what I was thinkin, but......  you know how emotional them liberuls get with their figgers an' all.

[midnight Target]

Funny thing about children, people can make more.

While us libruls are doing our ciphers we figger on birth rates too.

[Eagler]

this thread is not about Africa...

[Must4ng]

I have that same sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that I did on 09/11....  

The nihilistic madmen behind this atrocity disgust me beyond words...all I can think of is:
 
"We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old."  WC 06/06/40

Hitler couldn't do it, the IRA couldn't, I trust these fanatics won't be able to break your will either.

Vaya Con Dios, Mi Amigos

[slimm50]

Originally posted by midnight Target
While us libruls are doing our ciphers we figger on birth rates too.

Sooo....you 'uns figger >30,000 babies born each day in africa? Hold on while I Google that.

[lazs2]

You are saying that they are losing 12 million children a year but they have a high enough birth rate to not only sustain that but to increase their population?   And that does not even count all the adults killed by... what?  poverty?  how bout accidents and aids and all the rest?  How many kids are born a year there?

While this is all very sad no matter what the real number is...

It has nothing to do with a cowardly attack... no one in england is attacking these children in africa.

lazs

[TexMurphy]

To comment on what Tilt said...

A part of human nature is the ability to relate to things that happen close to one self and inability to relate to things that happen far away...

20 people killed in a car accident in ones home town is always viewed as a bigger disaster then a train crash killing 30.000 in India. Same way a terror attack in a town that one knows people in and has visited is always gonna feel more horrible then a cvil war in Rowanda killing 100.000s of people.

It shouldnt be that way I agree... but it is.. and to be honest Im quite glad it is or one would be depressed and sad every single day one turns on the news channel.

Tex

[slimm50]

So as not to hijack this thread, see my new post "African Birth Rate".

[StarOfAfrica2]

My condolences to any who were affected by these cowardly acts.  I heard it on the radio driving into work this morning, around 4 hours ago now.  Felt like someone punched me in the gut.  I mean, I've gotten used to our terror alerts going up and down, always wondering when the next one will happen, not if.  I never really expected them to hit London.  I mean, its always been a possibility, I've just gotten used to the idea of them hating Americans.  Sure the British are there, and have been from the start, but its us they focus on.  I've accepted that, and I guess gotten a bit numb to it.  Hearing the reports this morning though kinda makes it all new again.  It's like 9/11 hit again.  All morning we've been discussing how to adjust security here, and if it's necessary, and figuring out labor costs and such.  

[Tilt]

Originally posted by lazs2

While this is all very sad no matter what the real number is...

It has nothing to do with a cowardly attack... no one in england is attacking these children in africa.

lazs

One of the key issues under discussion at G8 was Africa both interms of debt relief and aid...but really these are mechanisms (effective or not as some would debate) to address the overall problem of poverty derived death rate in Africa. Infact the overal death rate approaches 50,000 per day this includes normal mortality so the 30,000 children estimated to die per day focuses stuff more as this is certainly not a natural mortality figure.

The terrorist attack on London has effectively "stalled" G8 for a day...the very day that Africa was under discussion.

If the terrorists attack allows focus to drift off the (normally ignored) African situation which is uniquely under focus in this G8 then the tragedy in London will be nothing to the continual  tragedy perpetuated in Africa.

The G8 was never going to solve Africas problems but it was poised to properly recognise them on a world scale.......I hope that the G8 will not permit terrorists to undermine this.........