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Offline 1K3

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P-51D vs Fw-190D
« on: August 01, 2005, 09:16:55 PM »
I havent seen any subjects covering '51D v 190D but imo these BnZ-ers/knife-fighters are equal in a duel or in furrball enviroment  :)
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2005, 09:31:17 PM »
P-51 hands down.  Better guns, tougher plane, turns better, handles much better.

The D-9 is about worthless, the only people who fly it are people who would rather be in the La-7 but are to "proud".

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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2005, 09:38:14 PM »
I'd pick the P-51D if both pilots are of equal skill.  The FW190D-9 would probably give it a run for his money but the P-51D, I think other than roll rate, has the advantage in all things.



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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2005, 10:09:12 PM »
The P-51 will win if it becomes a turning fight. The Dora will win if it becomes an E-fight. Atleast, this is my experience when flying the Dora.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2005, 11:05:47 PM »
for me, its hard to shoot at the 190D if it starts "stirring"

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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2005, 11:19:03 PM »
Yeah P-51 definitely.  It does well in turn fights, and not bad in E fights either...  If you turn and burn in a 190, you are basically screwed because it takes forever to get your E back.  Drop your flaps in the 51 and you can pull some sweet moves.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2005, 11:20:54 PM »
I'd take the Dora anyday in the DA...Climbs better,has more WEP.

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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2005, 11:28:03 PM »
E fighting I would pick the P51D,  BnZ I would go with the D9.........

2 E-fighters in different planes ( P51D vs 190D9 ) goes to the one who manages his E better and makes the other give in to fighting his fight and not his opponents!
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2005, 11:30:04 PM »
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The D-9 is about worthless, the only people who fly it are people who would rather be in the La-7 but are to "proud".


LMAO that time your wrong Id rather be in the Dora any day, but the pony whould win most the time cuz of the gamy flaps.

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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2005, 11:58:29 PM »
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LMAO that time your wrong Id rather be in the Dora any day, but the pony whould win most the time cuz of the gamy flaps.



Yeah, I agree.  Auto-retracting flaps are "gamy".  



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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2005, 12:04:45 AM »
'51 flaps are not "gamey".

Its a fact that combat flaps were fitted in all merlin powered mustangs. Regular fighter pilots (umm lets say from 8th AF for example) rarely used combat flaps in fite since they're focused on the target instead of looking through control colums for "combat flaps". I think experienced, ace pilots like Chuck Yeager are the ones who got teh most out of the p-51 flaps.

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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2005, 12:13:42 AM »
190s had combat flaps to but they come up at 180 dont know what speed the Dponys come up but i know the Bponys come up at about 400.  180-400 thats a big gap. guess its just american engineering.

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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2005, 03:51:39 AM »
Since planes are being compared, basing the outcome on the pilot factor would be a moot point - both very green pilots and masterfully exceptional aces.

 Having said that, IMO both planes are roughly equal in almost every aspect, and the relative situation would decide everything.

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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2005, 05:42:15 AM »
P51 easily outturns the Dora. This is the more common fight. If both start with same E the Dora will be in for it. Might be able to outclimb the pony in the long run but that will make for a very long fight.
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2005, 12:34:38 PM »
Pony.

'nuff said.