The Name Is Appeasement ... (German Paper Article)

[Momus--]

Nice selective quoting. you missed this bit..twice..

of the same order as nazism or communism?

So, do you really think that a handful of extremists with a sunni revivalist agenda who have appropriated a few long standing middle-east grievances for their own political ends are really a threat to western civilization the equal of imperial japan, nazi germany or the warsaw pact at its height? If so, why? By what measure do you judge?

[lazs2]

you are also forgeting that the American indians didn't have a country or land.  Their idea of nation and country was....

The strongest tribe got to live on the land.   We played by their rules.   We were the strongest tribe and we took the land we wanted just as they did before us.   Once we had the land we made the rules... the guy with the papers owned the land.

They never believed in ownership of land until we gave em the concept and the land.  

I am speaking of the plains tribes.   the euros had allready slaughtered the eastern tribes.

Also..I doubt that many of the victims of british imperialism could tell the difference in the brutal rule of their british masters from that of a modern sadam hussein.

lazs

[JBA]

Originally posted by Momus--
..... the irrational proposition that a relatively small number of extremists constitute a threat to our way of life of the same order as nazism or communism?
 

Ya I guess your right they are FEW in number

http://www.terrorism.com/index.php

Abdulaziz al-Muqrin Brigades  
Other names: Lions of the Peninsula Brigades
Abu Bakr al-Seddiq Battalions  
Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades    
Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)  
Other names: Fatah Revolutionary Council (FRC), Arab
Revolutionary Brigades (ARB), Black September (Organization - BSO), Black June Organization (BJO), and Revolutionary Organization of Socialist Muslims (ROSM)
Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)  
Other names: Al Harakat Al Islamiyya
African National Congress (ANC)  
Other names: South African Native National Congress, Umkhonto We Sizwe (Spear of the Nation), MK
Ahmed Abu Reesh Brigades  
Other names: Abu Rish Brigades, Martyr Ahmed Abu al Reesh Brigades
Ahyaul Turaz al-Islami  
Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj  
Other names: ABNES
Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade    
Al Arabiya    
Al Assirat al Moustaquim  
Other names: The Righteous Path
Al Badr  
Other names: al-Badhr, Al Badr Mujahidin
Al Barq  
Other names: Jammu and Kashmir Freedom Force Kashmir Freedom Force
Al Gama’a al Islamiyya (Islamic Group, IG)  
Other names: Jamaat al-Islamiyya
Al Haramein Brigades  
Other names: al Haramain Brigades
Al Ittihad al Islami (AIAI)  
Other names: Islamic Union, al-Ittihad al-Islamiya, Ittihad Al Islamiya
Al Jama’a al Islamiyyah al Muqatilah bi Libya  
Other names: Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, Fighting Islamic Group, Libyan Fighting Group, Libyan Islamic Group
Al Jehad    
Al Jehad Force  
Other names: combines Muslim Janbaz Force and Kashmir Jehad Force
Al Jihad (Egyptian Islamic Jihad)  
Other names: Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Jihad Group, Islamic Jihad, Society of Struggle
Al Mansooran    
Al Mujahid Force    
Al Muqrin Brigade    
Al Mustafa Liberation Fighters    
Al Nasreen    
Al Qa'nun    
Al Qaeda in Lebanon  
Other names: Tanzim [the organization of] al-Qaeda in Lebanon Ansar Tanzim al-Qaeda in Lebanon Qaidat al-Jihad in Lebanon
Al Qaeda in the Land of the Two Rivers  
Other names: Al-Tawhid Tawhid wal-Jihad Jama’a Tawhid wal-Jihad (the Society of Tawhid and Jihad) Qaedat al-Jihad fi balad ar-Rafidayn (The base [Qaeda] of Jihad in the Land of the Two Rivers) Al-Qaeda in the Land of the Two Rivers Al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia
Al Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula  
Other names: Qaedat al-Jihad in the Arabian Peninsula Al-Qaeda in the Land of the Two Holy Places Qaedat al-Jihad in the Land of the Haramain [Two Holy Places] The Fallujah Squadron (cell name) Al-Haramain Brigades (cell name) Al-Quds Brigade (cell name) The
Al Qaida  
Other names: al Qaeda al Qadr "The Base" Group for the Preservation of the Holy Sites International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders Islamic Army for the Liberation of the Holy Places Islamic Army for the Liberation of Holy Shrines Islamic Sal
Al Sadr Militia    
Al Umar Mujahideen  
Other names: AuM Al-Umar-Mujahideen
Al-Jamaa wal Sunnah    
Al-Muhajiroun    
Al-Takfir Wal-Hijra    
Alex Boncayao Brigade (ABB)    
Alfaro Lives, Damn It! (AVC)    
All Tripura Tiger Forces    
Allied Democratic Forces (ADF)    
American Independence Group  
Other names: AIG
Anarchic Attack Groups  
Other names: Anarchists Attack Team
Anatolian Federated Islamic State    
Andres Castro United Front (FUAC)    
Animal Liberation Front (ALF)  
Other names: ALF
Ansar al Islam    
Ansar al Sunna  
Other names: Ansar al-Sunna, (“Defenders of the Tradition,” “Supporters of the Tradition”) Jaish al-Ansar Jaish Ansar al-Sunna Army of al-Ansar Al-Ansar [Note: “al-Sunna” may also be written “as-Sunna”]
Ansar Al-Zawahri    
Anti-Abortion Extremists  
Other names: Army of God
Anti-Imperialist Territorial Nuclei (NTA)    
Arab Commando Cell  
Other names: Arab Revolutionary Cell Arab Fedayeen Cell
Arab Liberation Front    
Arab Organization of 15 May    
Arab Revolutionary Council    
Armed Forces Revolutionary Council (AFRC)  
Other names: Since alliance with the Revolutionary United Front (RUF), some attacks are attributed to RUF/AFRC.
Armed French Islamic Front    
Armed Islamic Group (GIA)    
Armed Revolutionary Left    
Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA)    
Army for the Liberation of Rwanda (ALIR)  
Other names: Interahamwe, Former Armed Forces (ex-FAR)
Army of Ansar al-Sunna  
Other names: ansar al sunna
Aryan Nations  
Other names: Church of Jesus Christ Christian
Aryan Republican Army    
Asbat al Ansar  
Other names: Osbat al-Ansar The League of Ansar [Supporters] The Partisans’ League Jama’at al-Noor (an offshoot group of Asbat al-Ansar)
Asif Raza Commandoes    
Aum Shinrikyo  
Other names: Aum Shinrikyo (means "teaching the supreme truth" on the "powers of destruction and creation in the universe.") Aleph (“To Start Anew”) new name of group as of 2000 Aum Divine Wizard Association (name of organization prior to Aum Shinrikyo) Aum Supreme
AZF    
 Babbar Khalsa International    
Balik-Islam  
Other names: reverters, Balik Islam Group
Baluch People's Liberation Front (BPLF)    
Baluch Students Organisation (BSO)    
Baluch Students' Organistaion - Awami (BSO-A)    
Baluchistan Liberation Army (BLA)  
Other names: Balochistan Liberation Army, Baloch Liberation Army, Baluch Liberation Army
Bandera Roja (Red Flag - GBR)    
Barisan Revolusi Nasional (BRN)    
Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)  
Other names: Euzkadi Ta Askatasuna (ETA) Basque Homeland and Freedom
Bayat    
Besi Merah Putih Militia    
Beyyiat el-Imam    
Black Bloc  
Other names: Black Block
Black September    
Breton Liberation Army (ARB)  
Other names: Breton Resistance Army Breton Revolutionary Army
Brotherhood of al-Ma’unah  
Other names: Al-Ma'unah Spiritual Brotherhood Al-Ma'unah
 
Caliphate State  
Other names: Union of Islamic Communities, Anatolian Federative Islamic State
Cambodian Freedom Fighters (CFF)  
Other names: Cholana Kangtoap Serei Cheat Kampouchea
Cameria Liberation Army (UCC)  
Other names: Ushtria Climentare e Camerise, Liberation Army of Chameria
Carlos the Jackal  
Other names: Carlos Ilich Ramirez Sanchez, the Carlos Apparat, and Organization of the Armed Arab Sruggle (OAAS)
Casamance Movement of Democratic Forces    
Chechen Rebels    
Chukaku Ha  
Other names: Nucleus or Middle-Core Faction
Cinchoneros Popular Liberation Movement (MPL)    
Clara Elizabeth Ramirez Front (CERF)    
Comando Jaramillista Morelense 23 de Mayo    
Combatant Communist Cells (CCC)    
Congolese Revolutionary Movement (MRC)    
Congress of the Peoples of Ichkeria    
Continuity Irish Republican Army (CIRA)  
Other names: Continuity Army Council Republican Sinn Fein
Crazy Gas Cannisters  
Dal Khalsa    
Dashmesh Regiment    
Deendar Anjuman    
Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP)  
Other names: Popular Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PDFLP)
Dhamat Houmet Daawa Salafia  
Other names: Group Protectors of Salafist Preaching, Houmat Ed Daawa Es Salifiya, Katibat El Ahoual, Protectors of the Salafist Predication, El-Ahoual Battalion, Katibat El Ahouel, Houmate Ed-Daawa Es-Salafia, the Horror Squadron, Djamaat Houmat Eddawa Essalafia, Djam
Direct Action (AD)    
Dukhtaran-E-Millat  
Other names: DEM

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Earth Liberation Front (ELF)  
Other names: ELF
East Turkestan Islamic Movement  
Other names: Eastern Turkistan Islamic Party, ETIM, ETIP
East Turkistan Information Center  
Other names: ETIC
Eastern Turkistan Liberation Organization  
Other names: ETLO
Enough is Enough in the Niger River    
Enraged Anarchists    
Fallen Angel    
Falluja Squadron  
Other names: Falluja Squadron in the Arabian Peninsula Al Falluja Squadron
Farabundo Marti National Liberation Front (FMLN)    
Fatah  
Other names: The Fatah used the name Black September Organization (BSO) from 1971 to 1974 and the cover name al-Asifa (The Storm) in 1965. In the 1980s, Force 17, the Hawari group, and security elements of the Fatah have been involved in terrorist operations. The name
Fatah – The Reformist Path    
First of October Antifascist Resistance Group (GRAPO)    
Force for the Defense of Democracy    
Forces Democratiques de Liberation du Rwanda (FDLR)  
Other names: Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda, Army for the Liberation of Rwanda (ALIR), Ex-FAR (Armed Forces of Rwanda), Interahamwe, Party for the Liberation of Rwanda (PALIR) • Political Wing
Forces for National Liberation (FNL)  
Other names: Forces Nationales de Liberation
Free Aceh Movement  
Other names: Gerakan Aceh Merdeka (GAM) Aceh Merdeka Acheh Sumatra National Liberation Front (ASNLF) Aceh Security Disturbance Movement (GPK)
Free Papua Movement (OPM)  
Other names: The Willem Onde Group is a splinter group of the OPM.
Front for the Liberation of Cabinda Enclave-Renewed (FLEC-Renewed)    
Front for the Liberation of the Cabinda Enclave  
Other names: Frente de Libertaco do Enclave de Cabinda (FLEC)
 
Gerakan Mujahadeen Islam Pattani (GMIP)    
God's Army    
God’s Brigade  
Other names: Jund Allah
Great Eastern Islamic Raiders' Front (IBDA-C)  
Other names: Islamic Union Front Islamic Raid Eastern Union Front
Group of People’s Combatant (GCP)  
Other names: GCP
Guatemalan National Revolutionary Unity (URNG)  
HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)  
Other names: HAMAS is an Arabic acronym for “Harakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiya,” meaning Islamic Resistance Movement. However, the word “hamas” means “zeal” in Arabic.
Haqiqi Mohajir Quami Movement (MQM-H)  
Other names: Spinter of the original Mohajir Quami Movement (MQM)
Harakat ul Jihad I Islami (HUJI) (Movement of Islamic Holy War)    
Harakat ul Jihad I Islami/Bangladesh (HUJI-B) (Movement of Islamic Holy War)    
Harakat ul Mujahidin (HUM) (Movement of Holy Warriors)  
Other names: Harkat-Ul-Mujahideen Harkat-Ul-Ansar Harkat-Ul-Jehad-E-Islami
Harkat ul Ansar  
Other names: Formed by merger of Harkat ul-Jihad al-Islami and Harkat ul-Mujahedin Now known as Harkat ul-Mujahideen
Hezb e Islami    
Hikmat-ul-Jihad    
Hizb ul Mujahedin  
Other names: Hizb-Ul-Mujahideen Hizb-Ul-Mujahideen Pir Panjal Regiment
Hizb ut-Tahrir - Western Europe  
Other names: Hizb al-Tahrir, Hezb al-Tahrir, The Ideological Society
Hizb-I Islami Gulbuddin (HIG)    
Hizballah (Party of God)  
Other names: Islamic Jihad, Revolutionary Justice Organization, Organization of the Oppressed on Earth, and Islamic Jihad for the Liberation of Palestine
Hofstad Network    
Holders of the Black Banner  
Iduwini National Movement for Peace and Development  
Other names: Iju-Warri
Ijaw Youth  
Other names: Ijaw Youth Movement
Ikhwan ul Mujahideen    
Imam al-Hassan al-Basri Brigades    
Informal Anarchic Federation (FAI)    
Insurgents, terrorists, militants in Iraq    
International Sikh Youth Federation    
Intigami Al-Pakistani    
Iraultza    
Irish National Liberation Army (INLA)    
Irish Republican Army (IRA)

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Other names: Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA), the Provos (Now almost universally referred to as the PIRA to distinguish it from RIRA and CIRA.)
Islambouli Brigades of al Qaeda    
Islami Inquilabi Mahaz    
Islami Jamaat e Tulba    
Islamic Army for the Liberation of the Holy Sites    
Islamic Army in Iraq    
Islamic Army of Aden (IAA)  
Other names: Aden-Abyan Islamic Army (AAIA)
Islamic Brigades of Pride in Egypt    
Islamic Defenders Front  
Other names: Fron Pembela Islam, (FPI)
Islamic Front  
Other names: Islamic Front (of Kashmir ?)
Islamic International Brigade  
Other names: International Battalion, Islamic Peacekeeping International Brigade, Peacekeeping Battalion, The International Brigade, The Islamic Peacekeeping Army, The Islamic Peacekeeping Brigade
Islamic International Peacekeeping Brigade (IIPB)    
Islamic Jihad Group in Uzbekistan    
Islamic Jihad Organization in Iraq    
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)  
Other names: Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan Renamed in 2002/03 to Islamic Party of Turkestan
Islamic Party of Turkestan  
Other names: former Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Islamic Response    
Islamic Students League    
Italian Anarchist Black Cross  
Jaish e Mohammed E Tanzeem(JEM)  
Other names: Army of Mohammed Army of the Prophet, Mohammed Tahrik-E-Furqan
Jaish-e-Muslimeen    
Jamaat al Islah al Ijtimai    
Jamaat I Islami    
Jamaat Shariat    
Jamaat ul Fuqra (JF)  
Other names: Jamaat ul-Fuqra (JF) or "community of the impoverished"
Jamaat ul Mujahideen    
Jamiat ul Mujahideen (JUM)  
Other names: JUM
Jammu & Kashmir National Liberation Army    
Jammu & Kashmir Students Liberation Front    
Jammu and Kashmir Freedom Force  
Other names: Kashmir Freedom Force JKFF
Jammu and Kashmir Islamic Front    
Janjaweed    
Japanese Red Army (JRA)  
Other names: Anti-Imperialist International Brigade (AIIB) Nippon Sekigun Nihon Sekigun
Japanese Red Army Faction (JRAF)  
Other names: Sekigunha NOTE: Group was founded before, and is distinct from the Japanese Red Army (JRA). JRA was a splinter group formed in 1972 supporting efforts by the PFLP.
Jemaah Islamiya (JI)    
Jenin Martyrs Brigade    
Jund al-Sham -- Ein al-Hilweh  
Other names: Organization of Soldiers of the Levant; Soldiers of Syria; Soldiers of Damascus; Soldiers of the Greater Syria
Jund al-Shem  
Other names: (Spelling Variations): Jund al-Sham, Jund a-Shem, Jund ash-Shem, Jund a-Sham, Jund ash-Sham
Justice and Equality Movement (JEM)  
Other names: JEM
Justice Commandos of the Armenian Genocide (JCAG)  
Kahane Chai (Kach)    
Kamtapur Liberation Organization  
Other names: KLO
Kanglei Yaol Kanba Lup  
Other names: KYKL
Kangleipak Communist Party  
Other names: KCP
Karbala Squadron  
Other names: Karbala Brigade
Kashmir Jehad Force    
Khalid Ibn al-Walid Brigade    
Khalistan Commando Force    
Khalistan Zindabad Force    
Khan Younes  
Other names: Khan Younis Militia
Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA)  
Other names: Ushtria Clirimtare E Kosoves (UCK)
Kumpulan Mujahidin Malaysia (KMM)    
Kurdistan Freedom Falcons    
Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK)  
Other names: KONGRA-GEL Kurdistan Freedom and Democracy Congress (KADEK) Freedom and Democracy Congress of Kurdistan Kurdistan People's Congress (KHK) Partiya Karkeran Kurdistan People's Defense Force Halu Mesru Savunma Kuvveti (HSK) People's Congress of Kurd
Lashkar e Jabbar (LJ)    
Lashkar e Jhangvi (LJ)    
Lashkar e Tayyiba (LT)  
Other names: Army of the Righteous Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) Army of the Pure Laskar-I-Taiba Lashkar-E-Taiba Pasban-E-Ahle Hadis
Lebanese Armed Revolutionary Faction (LARF)    
Liberation Party    
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)  
Other names: World Tamil Association (WTA) World Tamil Movement (WTM) Federation of Associations of Canadian Tamils (FACT) Ellalan Force
Liberians United for Reconciliation and Democracy  
Other names: LURD
Libyan Islamic Fighting Group  
Other names: Al-Jama’a al-Islamiyyah al-Muqatilah bi-Libya Libyan Fighting Group Libyan Islamic Group Fighting Islamic Group (FIG)
Lions of the Allah Brigade    
Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA)    
Lorenzo Zelaya Popular Revolutionary Forces (FPR-LZ)    
Loyalist Volunteer Force (LVF)  
Macheteros (Machete Wielders)    
Mahaz e Azadi  
Other names: Jammu and Kashmir Mahaz e Azadi
Manipur People’s Liberation Front  
Other names: MPLF
Manuel Rodriguez Patriotic Front (FPMR)    
Maoist Communist Center  
Other names: Maoist Communist Centre (MCC)
Maoists  
Other names: Communist Party of Nepal-Maoist (CPN-M); United People's Front (UPF), Maoist Rebels, Maoist Insurgents, Maoist Insurgency
Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13)  
Other names: MS-13, MS, Maras, mareros
Mara-18    
Mavro Asteri (Black Star)    
Mehdi Army  
Other names: Imam Mehdi Army
MLKP-FEST    
Mohammed’s Army (Iraq)  
Other names: Jaish Mohammed
Mohammed’s Army (Sudan)    
Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF)  
Other names: Bangsamoro Islamic Armed Forces (BIAF), MILF Special Operations Group (MILF-SOG)
Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF)  
Other names: Moro Liberation Front (MLF)
Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM)  
Other names: Groupe Islamique Combattant Marocain, GICM
Movement for the Freedom of Jerusalem    
Movement for the Struggle of the Jordanian Islamic Resistance  
Other names: Jordanian Islamic Resistance Movement Jordanian Islamic Resistance Movement for Holy Struggle Jordanian Islamic Resistance Movement for Jihad Jordanian Islamic Resistance Movement for Struggle Jordanian Islamic Resistance
Movement of the Revolutionary Left    
Mujahedeen Kompak    
Mujahedin e Khalq Organization (MEK or MKO)  
Other names: The National Liberation Army of Iran (NLA, the militant wing of the MEK), the People’s Mujahidin of Iran (PMOI), National Council of Resistance (NCR), Muslim Iranian Student’s Society (front organization used to garner financial support)
Mujahideen Corps    
Mujahideen in Kuwait    
Muslim Army of the Taliban  
Other names: Taliban Jamiat Jaish-e-Muslimeen
Muslim Brotherhood (BM)  
Other names: Jamiat al-ikhwan al-Muslimun
Muslim Janbaz Force    
Muslim Mujahideen    
Mutahida Majlis e Amal (United Action Forum)    
Muttahida Jehad Council (MJC)  
Other names: 'United Jehad Council'
Muttahida Quomi Mahaz - MQM (A)  
Other names: faction of Mohajir Quomi Movement (MQM)
Nadeem Commando (NC)    
National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB)  
Other names: Bodo Security Force (BdSF)
National Liberation Army (ELN)—Colombia    
National Liberation Forces (FNL)    
National Liberation Front of Corsica  
Other names: FLNC, Front de Libération Nationale de la Corse Corsican Revolutionary Brigades The Army of National Release Corsica (ALNC)
National Liberation Front of Tripura    
National Movement of the Land of Two Rivers    
National Union for the Total Independence of Angola (UNITA)  
Other names: Union Nacional Por La Independence Totale Do Angola
Nationalist and Integrationist Front (FNI)    
Native Insurgent Army  
Other names: Krajowa Armia Powstańcza
Neo-Nazi movement    
New People’s Army (NPA)  
Other names: Bagong Hukbong Bayan
New Red Brigades/Communist Combatant Party (BR/PCC)  
Other names: Brigate Rosse/ Partito Comunista Combattente

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Ogaden National Liberation Front    
Orange Volunteers (OV)    
Organization of the Armed Arab Struggle (OAAS)  
Other names: Carlos Apparat
 
Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ)    
Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)  
Other names: Front for the Liberation of Palestine (FLP)
Palestinian Hezbollah    
Patriotic Committee for Venezuela    
Patriot’s Council  
Other names: Minnesota Patriot’s Council
Pattani United Liberation Organization (PULO)  
Other names: Caddan Army, PULO Army Command Council (MPTP), PULO 88
Pentagon Gang    
People Against Gangsterism and Drugs (PAGAD)    
People's Liberation Army (PLA)    
People's Revolutionary Militia (PRM)    
People's War Group (PWG)  
Other names: The Communist Party of India (Marxist Leninist) (People’s WAR) – CPI-ML (PW)
People’s League    
People’s Liberation Army  
Other names: PLA
People’s Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak  
Other names: Prepak
Popular Forces 25 April (FP-25)    
Popular Front for Armed Resistance (PFAR)    
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)    
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine–General Command (PFLP-GC)    
Popular Liberation Army (EPL)    
Popular Palestinian Resistance Force    
Popular Resistance Committee    
Popular Struggle Front    
Proletarian Combatant Groups (NPC)    
Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA)  
Other names: Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA), the Provos (Now almost universally referred to as the PIRA to distinguish it from Real IRA and Continuity IRA.)
Purbo Banglar Communist Party (PBCP)  
Rajah Solaiman Movement  
Other names: RSM, linked to Balik-Islam
Rajneeshee Cult  
Other names: Osho, Rajneeshism
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS)  
Other names: Sangh (National Volunteer Corps), RSS
Real Irish Republican Army (RIRA)  
Other names: True IRA
Red Army Faction (RAF)  
Other names: Baader-Meinhof Group, Rote Armee Faktion
Red Brigades (BR)  
Other names: Brigate Rosse
Red Hand Commando    
Red Hand Defenders (RHD)    
Return Party    
Revenge of the Trees (ROTT)  
Other names: ROTT
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)  
Other names: FARC
Revolutionary Cells (RZ)    
Revolutionary Nuclei  
Other names: Revolutionary Cells
Revolutionary Organization 17 November (17 November)  
Other names: November 17 N-17
Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)  
Other names: Devrimci So, Revolutionary Left, Dev Sol
Revolutionary Perspective    
Revolutionary Popular Struggle (ELA)  
Other names: Epanastatikos Laikos Agonas; Popular Revolutionary Struggle; June 78; Organization of Revolutionary Internationalist Solidarity; Liberation Struggle; Revolutionary People's Solidarity, a splinter group was formed in 1998 called "Revolutionary Cells"; Peop
Revolutionary Proletarian Initiative Nuclei (NIPR)    
Revolutionary Struggle    
Revolutionary United Front (RUF)    
Ricardo Franco Front (RFF)    
Riyadus-Salikhin Reconnaissance and Sabotage Battalion of Chechen Martyrs (RSRSBCM)  
Other names: Riyadh-as-Saliheen, Riyadus-Salikhin Reconnaissance and Sabotage Battalion of Shahids (Martyrs), Riyadus-Salikhin Reconnaissance and Sabotage Battalion, the Sabotage and Military Surveillance Group of the Riyadh al-Salihin Martyrs
Sa'iqa    
Salafist Group for Call and Combat (GSPC)  
Other names: Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC)
Salifiya Jihadiya  
Other names: Salafiya Jihadiya Salafiya Jihadia
Saraya al-Mujahideen    
Save Kashmir Movement    
Secret Organization of al-Qaeda in Europe    
Sendero Luminoso (Shining Path, or SL)  
Other names: Shining Path, Sendero Luminoso, Communist Party of Peru for the Shining Path of Jose Carlos Mariategui
Sikh Extremists    
Sipah e Mohammed Pakistan (SMP)  
Other names: Army of Muhammad
Sipah I Sahaba/Pakistan  
Other names: Sipah e Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) Anjuman Sipah-e-Sahaba Millat-e-Islamia Pakistan
Special Purpose Islamic Regiment  
Other names: Islamic Regiment of Special Meaning, the al-Jihad-Fisi-Sabililah Special Islamic Regiment, the Islamic Special Purpose Regiment
Special Purpose Islamic Regiment (SPIR)    
Students Islamic Movement of India    
Sudan Liberation Movement and Army (SLM)  
Other names: SLM
Sudan Peoples Liberation Army (SPLA)  
Other names: Sudan Peoples Liberation Movement
Suicide Brigades of Andalucía    
Support to Ocalan--The Hawks of Thrace    
Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA)  
Taliban  
Other names: Taleban, Students of Islamic Knowledge Movement
Tamil Nadu Liberation Army  
Other names: TNLA
Tamil National Retrieval Troops  
Other names: TNRT
Tawhid and Jihad  
Other names: Al-Tawhid Tawhid wal-Jihad Jama’a Tawhid wal-Jihad (the Society of Tawhid and Jihad) Qaedat al-Jihad fi balad ar-Rafidayn (The base [Qaeda] of Jihad in the Land of the Two Rivers) Al-Qaeda in the Land of the Two Rivers Al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia
Tehreek e Jaferia Pakistan (TJP)  
Other names: Tehrik Jaferia Pakistan Tehreek Nifaz Fiqah-e-Jafria (TNFJ) Islami Tehrik Pakistan (ITP) Tehrik-e-Islami Pakistan Tehreek-e-Fiqa Jafria of Allama Sajid Naqvi
Tehreek e Nafaz e Shariat e Mohammadi (TNSM)  
Other names: 'Movement for the Enforcement of Islamic Laws'
Tehrik e Hurriat e Kashmir    
Tehrik e Jehad    
Tehrik e Jehad e Islami    
Tehrik e Nifaz e Fiqar Jafaria    
Tehrik i Jihad    
Tehrik ul Mujahideen    
The Committee for the Security of the Roads    
The Corsican People’s Army (APC)    
The Martyr Abdullah Azzam Brigades of the Al-Qaeda Organization  
Other names: The Martyr Abdullah Azzam Brigades of the al-Qaeda Organization in the Land of Shem and the Land of Canaan.
Tunisian Combat Group  
Other names: Groupe Combattant Tunisien (GCT), Jama'a Combattante Tunisien (JCT); Tunisian Combatant Group
Tunisian Combatant Group (TCG)    
Tunisian Islamic Front    
Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement (MRTA)    
Turkish Hizballah    
 
Ulster Defense Association/Ulster Volunteer Force (UDA/UVF)  
Other names: Ulster Freedom Fighters (UFF)
Unified Forces of Caucasian Mujaheddin    
Union of Congolese Patriots (UPC)    
United Liberation Front of Assam  
Other names: Ulfa
United Movement of Liberia (ULIMO)  
Other names: United Liberation Front for Democracy in Liberia ULIMO-J (Gen. Roosevelt Johnson - ethnic Krahns) ULIMO-K (Section Kromah - ethnic Mandingos) LURD
United National Liberation Front  
Other names: UNLF
United Self-Defense Forces/Group of Colombia (AUC–Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia)  
Other names: AUC
United Tajik Opposition  
Vigorous Burmese Student Warriors  
Willem Onde Group  
Other names: a splinter group of the Free Papua Movement (OPM)
World Church of the Creator  
Other names: The Creativity Movement
World Uighur Youth Congress  
Yarmuk  
Zapatistas

[Momus--]

Good work JBA. You can cut and paste a wall of text irrespective of context, did you even read it before posting?

Please read the original article that Dago (re)posted. It pertains to revivalist Sunni islam and makes a series of arguments about it's often violent relationship with the west. Now, in that wall of text you posted there are maybe half a dozen to a dozen organisations out several hundred listed that currently fit that description, as I said, a relative few, espcecially when you consider that some are splinter groups and some are the same organisations under different names.

[Torque]

Originally posted by Toad
Your "dismount" left a lot to be desired as well. Many of trouble spots in today's world are a result of your initial colonialization, less than "politically correct" rule and then your hasty retreat from empire.

current trouble spots being iraq and iran?

considering it was a cia coup that installed the baathists a minority party into power in iraq and a cia coup that overthrew the iranian democracy and then subsequent support of a dictatorship for nearly three decades.

maybe you were referring to south american.

the one thing america learned from the brits, it was more cost effective to colonize govn'ts rather than geography to subvert basic human rights to aquire resource.

[Toad]

No, you must have missed the references to continual problem areas in the world.

The Balfour Declaration/Palestine, Somalia, Uganda, the India/Pakistan Kashmir nuke showdown, the odd border lines of Iraq waved a wand and put Kurds, Sunnis and Shia into one country (bit of a problem still), Afhganistan, Zimbabwe...

But dont' take my word for it:

The UK Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, has blamed Britain's imperial past for many of the modern political problems, including the Arab-Israeli conflict and the Kashmir dispute.

"A lot of the problems we are having to deal with now - I have to deal with now - are a consequence of our colonial past," he said.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Skydancer
Toad me thinks you might just be a little bit in danger of being a terrorist sympathiser.

ROFL! That's the funniest (and most ridiculous) thing I've read on this board in months.
 

Originally posted by Toad
Ours is a Freedom bus and no matter how late it leaves it'll be a joyous day for all.

Hmmm. I used to think the same thing - that *we* (being the occupying forces in Iraq) would have the indigenous population of Iraq wanting to carry us shoulder high through the streets of Baghdad in recognition of our gift of democracy; that there would be a sea of happy, smiling Iraqi faces. It happened, for a time, before things started getting ugly again.

The thing is - I don't think it's possible to judge an Arabian society using a yardstick based on western values. Sure, *we* enjoy our democracy, being able to vote, freedom of speech etc. But I don't think we can simply presuppose that these are rights that an Arabian society necessarily wants. The Arab mind is quite different from the western mind. I am reminded of certain small African tribes who were quite happy to worship their little tin god - until the Christian Missionaries arrived, and decided to "liberate" the tribespeople from their "erroneous beliefs" in the tin god they had created, and to force them to worship the Christian god. They might also have thought they were doing the tribespeople a favour by telling them that there was only one proper way to "do it". Hence, this method of "doing it" became known as the "Missionary position". The missionaries probably thought they were doing the tribespeople a huge service in meting out this advice. I'm not so sure. I'd like to have heard what the tribespeople had to say about it. Same thing goes for the Iraqis in post war Iraq.

As for how Britain treated the indigenous peoples of its colonies, I think the answer is: probably a damn sight better than the treatment they are now receiving in the days since declaring independence. Let's consider Zimbabwe. I believe that the African state of southern Rhodesia was founded c1924. There were many whites who would live there, and the standard of living was very high, with low taxation because there was no social underclass (benefits claimants) leeching off the economy, unlike modern day Britain. Life was good for the blacks too, as they were able to find work on white owned farms, or in service. The problem was that the PM, Ian Smith, maintained a society in which the blacks continued to be uneducated. UDI was declared in 1965, and the father of a certain Rhodesian family that I know took the view that all the other African states that had gone independent had gone down the tubes and, being a German Jew and a refugee from Nazi Germany, had all his children naturalised as Germans, so that they would have passports to leave Rhodesia when the time came. Sure enough, southern Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) went down the tubes - not surprising when the president is a criminal. From a once prosperous nation, Zimbabwe has become an impoverished state with half its population at risk of starvation. Black families who had the temerity not to support Zanu-PF at the elections have been bulldozed out of their homes; in some cases before they'd had time to leave.

I rather think the status quo was much more palatable under British rule - for blacks and whites alike.

[rabbidrabbit]

"They might also have thought they were doing the tribespeople a favour by telling them that there was only one proper way to "do it". Hence, this method of "doing it" became known as the "Missionary position". The missionaries probably thought they were doing the tribespeople a huge service in meting out this advice. I'm not so sure. I'd like to have heard what the tribespeople had to say about it. Same thing goes for the Iraqis in post war Iraq.
"

So your saying the Iraqis are sexually frustrated?

[Krusher]

An article on one of my favorite blogs covers this subject from a POV of the current election campaign.

David's Medienkritk

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Blind Pacifism Prevails in Germany: Merkel's CDU Caves on Iran
(By Ray D.)

There was only so much the CDU could do. The party was stuck between a rock and a hard place. When Gerhard Schroeder decided to make peace-at-all-costs a campaign issue for the second election in a row, he knew he was putting his political opponents under enormous pressure. To understand why, one need only rewind to the last national election.  In 2002, Schroeder pulled off a come-from-behind victory by mercilessly playing on the pacifist fears of the German people on Iraq. And the tactic worked brilliantly, particularly in eastern Germany, where Schroeder made enormous gains at the expense of the Communist PDS party.

Now its election time again. And the "peace Chancellor" is hoping the same emphasis on foreign policy will carry his party back to power. This time it's Iran. After President George W. Bush commented this past week that he would not rule out military force as a last option in confronting Iran over its nuclear program, Schroeder quickly seized the opportunity by declaring that he was for "taking military options from the table," a position enormously popular with German voters. That left Angela Merkel's CDU (Christian Democrats) with a difficult choice: Either reject Schroeder's position on principle and incur massive electoral losses (as they did in 2002) at a time when the party is stumbling and struggling to hold its majority, or cave on the issue and assume a pacifist position to neutralize Schroeder's ability to exploit it.

It now appears that the CDU has adopted Schroeder's position, thereby abandoning its earlier ideals and diminishing its commitment to a strong transatlantic partnership. But at the same time, it is a position forced on them by the shameless, populist exploitation of the issue by Schroeder. Above all, it is a position forced on the CDU by the majority of the German electorate which has long been staunchly pacifist and would severely punish the party were it to decide differently. Considering Germany's history over the past century, the nation's knee-jerk pacifism is hardly surprising. But it also makes it difficult for Germany to play a leading, responsible role in world affairs and leaves the country looking like a geopolitical lightweight. The mullahs in Iran would certainly be delighted if all the world's nations adopted such a dangerously naive "negotiations only" approach to its nuclear program.

So what does this all mean? It means that whoever wins the election and whatever constellation emerges in the next German government, it will be extremely difficult for Germany's next set of leaders to stand firmly beside the United States when future international conflicts arise. Now that both major parties have adopted a diplomacy-only approach to Iran, it will be difficult to find common ground with the United States should the Iranians decide to push the matter. And the new German position of peace-at-all-costs certainly emboldens Persia's Mullahs to do just that.

[Momus--]

This just in, political parties decide to base policy on public opinion, more at our next bulletin..

[Toad]

Don't read too deeply into it Beet.

All I said was I think we'll be happy to leave as soon as we can and they'll be happy to see us go. Mutual happiness.

As for paternal colonialism... I just have to laugh. Yes, you folks were fine masters. Amazing there was ever any effort for independence in any of your colonies.

Wonder what would have happened to Rhodesia if it had just been left alone to evolve in its own way at its own pace from the beginning instead of being benevolently colonized.

[storch]

Originally posted by Toad

Wonder what would have happened to Rhodesia if it had just been left alone to evolve in its own way at its own pace from the beginning instead of being benevolently colonized.

billy jeff never would have become a rhodes scholar.