Russian and Japanese planeset fillers

[Enker]

Sweet, fifty rounds so we can miss twenty nine more times than we already do. 

[Denholm]

I suppose then all we need is a track-player playing, "Ride of the Valkyries." Oh, an amplifier too.

[Gianlupo]

The P.108 was built in too few examples to be added in the game anytime soon... and only the prototype of the P.108A was produced. Btw, it was produced in here, where I live.

[Rich46yo]

If were going to go with a Russian bomber then why not go with their most successful design of the war? The PE-2 was a fine bird but lets compare the two right now http://www.airpages.ru/eng/ru/tu2.shtml

BTW that top speed at altitude equals 340 mph. The top speed for the TU-2 at sea level is 316 mph, a bit under the Mossie. She holds 2,205 lbs of bombs in her bomb bay, over twice as much as the Mossie, and can be loaded with a maximum 6,614 lbs of bombs with all its hard points. That is a serious bombload. And even tho it would slow the airplane down were talking over 2,000lbs more bombload then the B-26 at KI-67 speeds.

There are different accounts of the TU-2s specs, and of course different versions of the aircraft. But they are all impressive. This was a great, great airplane and one we need badly in this game.

[SmokinLoon]

The Japanese could use a legit air to ground attack aircraft.  The Ki-45 would fit the bill perfectly.  The Ki-45 was assigned the name of "Nick".  Imagine the confusion when someone says "watch the Nick diving in".  I wish people would start calling the Nik2 by its name (George).

We have the zeke, tony, frank, george, and peggy.  The "nick" would fit in nice and fill an obvious gap.   

[wulf31]

  I wish people would start calling the Nik2 by its name (George).
We have the zeke, tony, frank, george, and peggy.    

 This would probably take a little recoding for the text by HTC , not a bad idea all in all

[Motherland]

This would probably take a little recoding for the text by HTC , not a bad idea all in all

It wouldn't take any recoding... people call it the Nick because it's alphanumerical designation (N1K 2J) looks like Nick, even thought the allied nickname was the George. It has nothing to do with code.

[wulf31]

 I believe there has been a mis-understanding. I meant that for the community to start using the allied code names for the Japanese planes, they must appear that way in game.

[Ruah]

I believe there has been a mis-understanding. I meant that for the community to start using the allied code names for the Japanese planes, they must appear that way in game.

then we should rename all the german planes too, since the allies renamed those too. . .

and if there is something there that screams 'but a 109 is a 109!' and people have some degree of pride associated with it, then I will tell you that we (at least the japanese here amongst us) also know the planes by the names given to them (and the Japanese also renamed U.S. planes. . .but its a winner take all sort of war).

anyway, if there is going to be a renaming or recoding, then I would prefer giving the planes the names given to them by their makers.

[Gianlupo]

Yep! Call them Shiden, Hayate, Reisen, Hien!

[SmokinLoon]

I understand why most people call the Nik2 the "nikki" or "nik".  I find it funny when I call it the "George" and people will pipe up and say "huh, what are you talking about?"  "THERE IS A GEORGE COMING AROUND ON YOU!", I'll say again... 

The thing about the 109's is that the model were not that different in appearance to call them by seperate names.  I'm not syaing it didnt happen, but I'd be willing to bet based on all the US/UK pilot accounts I've read that I've read that the a 109 sighting was called as such.  Same as the 190.   The Nik2 is a completely different plane than the rest Japanese aircraft.   

[Gianlupo]

The thing about the 109's is that the model were not that different in appearance to call them by seperate names.  I'm not syaing it didnt happen, but I'd be willing to bet based on all the US/UK pilot accounts I've read that I've read that the a 109 sighting was called as such.  Same as the 190.   The Nik2 is a completely different plane than the rest Japanese aircraft.   

I think that's not correct. Japanese planes subtypes didn't have their own name... any type had a single name, regardless the subtype (with few exceptions, maybe)... at least, AFAIK.

[Karnak]

We don't actually have the 'George' in AH.

N1K1-J Shiden = 'George'
N1K2-J Shiden Kai = 'George 21'

[Bruv119]

I16,  yak-3,  TU-2, 
oscar, ki 84 - c, jack ,  g4m2 betty,

Thats for starters !

[SmokinLoon]

I think that's not correct. Japanese planes subtypes didn't have their own name... any type had a single name, regardless the subtype (with few exceptions, maybe)... at least, AFAIK.

Exactly my point.  An A6Mx was a "zeke" regardless of which model it was.  Ditto for the rest of the Japanese aircraft model variations.  As Karnak pointed out, the George is still a George (even though a number was added for later variants).

For the 109's... I dont ever recall UK or US pilots calling them out as "Emil's, Fritz's, etc".  They referered to them as "109's".