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« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2005, 10:10:56 PM »
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Not a fiasco, it's called a disaster.  

Bridges down, flooded roadways, trees over roadways and water ways, airports comprimised, material handling machinery needs infrastructure to work; fuel, electrical power, etc. needs to be up for things to run smoothly.  

Flooding causes water works to stop function, so no drinking water.  Sewage treatment down, so polluted water all around.

It takes awile to get things up and running.  No one said surviving a disaster would be convenient.

What they need most is patience and calm.  Both are in short supply.


Thanks for the lesson Holden.

The Hurricane was a "disaster.| The response to it is a FIASCO.

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« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2005, 10:19:19 PM »
I'm sure President Nash would have the situation well in hand by this late date.
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« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2005, 10:35:06 PM »
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I'm sure President Nash would have the situation well in hand by this late date.


As President of the United States, some things I would touch would turn to ****. But not everything.

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« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2005, 10:38:04 PM »
not unlike the monkey we got right now...
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« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2005, 10:39:26 PM »
He's gotten some things right?

That's news.

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« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2005, 10:45:27 PM »
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Thanks for the lesson Holden.
 


Too bad it didn't take.

The hurricane was a storm.

What the hurricane did to the gulf coast was a disaster.    It FUBARed everything necesary for a smooth operation during the time immediately following the destruction.

When a fireman runs into your house he's doing his best to save you, your family and your stuff.
 
If as he's doing it he trips over your coffee table because the smoke obscured his vision, he isn't a klutz and what he's doing is not a fiasco.
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« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2005, 10:50:12 PM »
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As President of the United States, some things I would touch would turn to ****. But not everything.


Of course.

But you'd have a simple problem like 75 miles of coastline and three cities flattened all fixed by now, right?

You'd have all the power on, the water supply cleaned and restored and have all refugees in 4 star hotels before the last rain had fallen, right?

I mean, after all.... how hard can this be? Just a minor storm with moderate winds..........
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« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2005, 10:51:11 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2005, 10:51:37 PM »
That was an impressive long------->jump over your last post, but.... okay I'll play.

"The hurricane was a storm." Yeah.

"What the hurricane did to the gulf coast was a disaster." Sure, down with that.

"It FUBARed everything necesary for a smooth operation during the time immediately following the destruction." Okaaaaayy.

"When a fireman runs into your house he's doing his best to save you, your family and your stuff." No - THAT'S WHERE I BEG TO DIFFER! THE FIREMEN ARE TRYING TO KILL YOU! I mean seriously... of course... where is this going?

"If as he's doing it he trips over your coffee table because the smoke obscured his vision, he isn't a klutz and what he's doing is not a fiasco."

Yeah... well yeah...

Uhm... Bring it on home Holden...

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« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2005, 10:55:02 PM »
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Of course.

But you'd have a simple problem like 75 miles of coastline and three cities flattened all fixed by now, right?

You'd have all the power on, the water supply cleaned and restored and have all refugees in 4 star hotels before the last rain had fallen, right?

I mean, after all.... how hard can this be? Just a minor storm with moderate winds..........


Well, perhaps I wouldn't have kicked FEMA's support out at the knees. Perhaps I wouldn't have slashed its funding. Maybe I wouldn't have directed it against disaster relief towards Homeland Security. Perhaps I wouldn't have appointed my buddy the real eastate guy as the head of it.

I am telling you. Everything this guy touches turns to ****.

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« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2005, 10:57:07 PM »
We all know they should have left. Why they didnt..who knows. Poor decision making Id say. Looks like a lot of them are used tomaking poor choices. Some were stranded, some too old and sick, some too poor, most too lazy.  All were uneducated by the looks.

   I say that because anyone in their right mind, who was told in the past that their city would flood well above their heads in places, leaving them stranded and left to die of thirst/hunger/exposure, and likely no help for days....would have started walking out of the city 48 hours before it struck.

  Im curious...did N.O. ever have any public education on the danger of living in city below sea level, in a hurricane zone? If so..then these people are fully to blame for their plight. If not..and something tells me announcing your city is a death trap isnt good PR, then the city itself must share the burden of the blame.

Seriously..the day before the hurricane, everyone is watching tvs in their "safe" house...one thats always protected them from storms, seeing reports that the hurricane may come, and the next day its like...RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!  Even as mean hearted as I can be, I couldnt expect someone to absorb the eminent danger of it all, and escape.

  Frankly I hope the overall opinion is that the city did in fact warn folks of the dangers of living there, long before this happened.

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« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2005, 11:00:21 PM »
I thought you would get the fairly clear analogy.  I guess I was wrong.

The point is Nash, that your being a jerk on this issue.  If you think that after four days the relief effort should be a well oiled machine, you are ignorant too. That has not been my experience reading you posts, but apparently something has changed.

It is easy to criticise relief efforts when you are sitting in the comfort of your living room isn't it?

What does your civil engineering and hydrology experience say should be par for stopping up 100 meters of breeched dike?
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« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2005, 11:02:01 PM »
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It is easy to criticise relief efforts...



WHAT RELIEF EFFORTS?!!!!!

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« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2005, 11:10:17 PM »
How'd the lady get her MRE to complain about that started the thread?

Your being a jerk Nash, stop it.
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« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2005, 11:10:45 PM »
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40%.. wow, that number seems to be going up at the same rate as the gas prices. Was only 25% when the storm was offshore. From looking at the pictures there's some mighty nice roofs on those hovels.


Sorry it's 34% and a roof is hardly an indicatory of one's economic level...

And it's easily to sit back in the safety and comfort of our homes and point fingers at those less fortunate then ourselves and blame them for the situation they find themselves in.  



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