Angry with some of these refugees

[soda72]

 

We don't even know how many people have died and people are using this to push their political views...  

[Nash]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
How'd the lady get her MRE to complain about that started the thread?

Your being a jerk Nash, stop it.

Come on, Holden... Some woman gets chucked an MRE and everything is supposed to be golden?

This is a nightmare.

I aint being a jerk. I am being emotional, maybe. But sue me. And why aren't you?

It's an outrage. Very difficult to watch.

The Speaker of the House, Dennis Haagh cough cough is advocating that the whole thing just be tanked. Let it drown, and build it elsewhere.

But you can't build it elsewhere!

Anyone been there? It's an amazing place! We're watching it die blaming Somalia and Nanny states and... It's just so frustrating....

[Wolf14]

I have to agree with some of the others, the greens egg and ham omlete is not good. I dont like the beef frankfruters that much either but I"ll eat them.

As far as the bownie goes I find if I eat them and drink the cool-aid with them they aint that bad.

Anybody got an extra full case of MRE's layin around they may wanna sell?  I'm runnin low. I'm also looking for the ones that have the old freeze dried peaches. I have put up good fights for those


As far as folks not likin them, What ever happened to eating what is on the table? If I'm starvin I aint gonna complain.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by soda72
 

We don't even know how many people have died and people are using this to push their political views...  

yup pretty sad.


The only thing I have to criticise is this:

When we invaded afghanistan we saw C-5s loaded with little yellow MREs and packages of water ready to air drop and "win the hearts and minds"

Why arent we seeing the same thing on the news.  A C-5 could be loaded with the cargo in an hour and be on location within 2 or 3 hours.

we have the air support and supplies why arent they being dropped to people that are stranded.  I sure hope this picks up by tommorrow.

[Shuckins]

The zone of destruction is 150 miles wide Nash...

There are more stranded hurricane victims in the rural areas of Mississippi and Louisiana than those in New Orleans, who seem to be getting the lion's share of the attention.  They're spread across a six state area....if not further.  The main Baptist church in my home town has put up several families from our neighboring states to the south and east.

You've misunderstood the grousing about the behavior of those in New Orleans.  The criticism isn't being leveled against those who are helpless and starving....it's directed at the young criminal thugs and gang-bangers, pants down around their knees, that are shooting at the rescuers, medical personnel, and good Samaritans trying to bring aid to those in need.

The disgust is also aimed at those that are perfectly healthy that have been told that they can walk just three miles to get out of the water to an overpass, where it would be easier for aid to reach them, but chose instead to sit on their hands, demanding that aid be brought directly to them.

Don't know how comprehensive the coverage is up there in Canada, there's some pretty disgusting stuff going on down there in the Big Easy.  Sure, they've got it tough...but they're not the only ones suffering and in need of aid...rescue agencies, Red Cross, FEMA, and so on are overwhelmed by the magnitude of the disaster.

Many seem to be doing absolutely nothing to ease the task of the rescue workers.

[Toad]

It's is probably the greatest natural disaster in the history of the United States.

Nash, it's unreasonable to the extreme to expect all the problems to be resolved or even be "under control" at this stage.

Without getting personally abusive, it does call into question your understanding of "disaster".

[Holden McGroin]

Why am I not emotional?  Because I'd rather be rational.

They just got the first levee patched, hopefully it will hold.  A second levee needs to be repaired, the the city needs to be pumped out.  Then permanent repairs can take place.

How long do you estimate the repair of the 2nd levee should take?  What is your estimate of the effect of water from Katrina that was dumped in the Ohio valley that takes... how many days before that water gets to the Crescent City, and how much higher is your estimate of the river when it gets there?  Will it breach another levee?

Oh, by the way 50,000 people are being bussed to Houston and the rest of the city is being evacuated.

My guess is that four days is less time than it would take under the best of circumstances and disaster relief is by definition not held under the best of circumstances.

Oh, and that is just the relief of NO.  Mobile, Biloxi, and a myriad of smaller communities in three state were hit pretty hard.  I heard that 2/3 of a police car fleet in one Alabama town was destroyed. Probably the effectiveness of that police force has been comprimised, and the police is one of the key agencies that need to function under this circumstance.

My guess is that a lot of the work that needs to be done is'nt even known yet.

[Nash]

See Rule #5

[Toad]

You sir, are in outer space.

You are making incredible leaps of non-logic.

Go ahead and tell us all that N.O. would be faring any differently at all if Kerry had won. Or even if Gore had won two straight.

That is simply a flight of incredible fancy. Buy go ahead and make that statement; it'll clarify your positon for a lot of folks.

It merely highlights that, IMO, you are not the astute observer of the US political landscape that you apparently perceive yourself to be.

Preparation? There is no way to truly prepare for something like this. If there were, they would have built the N.O. levees to withstand more than a Cat 3 hurricane. But years and years ago a risk/reward decision was made to do just that. Looks like the risk was understimated.

Don't believe me though... believe the Corps.

 The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said

However, they noted that the levees were designed for a Category 3 hurricane and couldn't handle the ferocious winds and raging waters from Hurricane Katrina, which was a Category 4 storm when it hit the coastline. The decision to build levees for a Category 3 hurricane was made decades ago based on a cost-benefit analysis.

What I voted for? I suppose with Canadian clairvoyance you know exactly what will happen during the term of the PM you vote for.

Tell me, did I vote for Katrina to hit the Gulf Coast?

Preparedness? I seriously doubt you have a clue about what it would take to be prepared for a disaster of this magnitude.

Vancouver is on a major fault line. Have you figured out how to prepare for the day the major quake levels that city?

Out of time with people like me? What is your preparedness plan for that? Are you and a bunch of other like-minded Canadians going to invade and straighten us all out?

I'm very glad you're not one of us. We already have enough folks that merely complain from the cheap seats.

[Hangtime]

and to think that somewhere tonight, some guy is buying a minivan.

[JTs]

releif effort
there is a chitload of us here in houston with food and water waiting for escort into new orleans.  i have 5000 gallons of bottled water in my trailer that was donated by sparkletts in california. i am hauling this for nothing.  if i see the lady i'll tell her to order out next time

[Nash]

See Rule #5

[Hangtime]

enh?

everything the president touches turns to asterisks  ?

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Nash

But nevermind that. We are witnessing a FIASCO. And what do you gotta say about it?
Come on.

Fiasco? what fiasco would that be?

What we are witnessing is a tragedy

[Gunslinger]

most of the poeple you see on TV complaining about what they got and looting have been taught that society owes them something and know nothing else but to blame somone else for their problems.