Originally posted by Dowding:
Italian football violence is miles worse than in England. It used to be bad in the 70's and early 80's, but things have changed immensely.
Dowding, now say the truth.
I recall your Prime minister saying in public and by TV, on Press, everywhere, that he was ASHAMED of English soccer supporters (AKA Hooligans).
I dont recall of any happening that forces the Italian president to do the same thing.
I recall that EVERY and EACH time an english soccer team plays in Spain (FCBarcelona supporter here, recall many matches against Newcastle, Chelsea, Leeds. Manchester Utd...) the police has to put hundreds of policemen to keep the security in hte streets of the city where the match is played.
I never recall that same thing done with an Italian soccer team.
English hooligans are the worse European soccer supporters, BY FAR. So stop your braggin on "now we aren't that bad"...its clear that you wont be the motive of another Heysel, again...
But if to be good is to go on the streets of a foreign nation, with 6 hundred of your friends, drunk like pigs and breaking shop's glasses, thumping cars, and throwing things because your team has lost, excuse me but you need some civic lessons.
Sheffield Wednesday fan here, going to games since the age of 5. I've never seen any trouble in a football ground, and rarely any trouble outside. Go to Brasil if you want to see some extreme football related violence
My god. Maybe you haven't seen the violence first-hand...but for sure you need to check for amnesya problems, man...
Recall Marseille on France'98? and the hooligans in marseille?...
Recall The Eurocup last summer?...recall that the UEFA was about kicking England out of the competition because your hooligans' attitude?...recal your Prime Minister declaring that he was ashamed of having people like that in his country?
You need a memory check, dude. You do really need it. Excuse my harsh words but I cant believe that I read what I read from you, after what has happened in Euro'2000 and France'98. Not to count the endless incidents your hooligans cause in team matches on foreing nations, of course
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To be true nothing in this world compares with the South american ultra groups...Argentina soccer is almost more known for its violence than for their soccer teams.
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 12-21-2000).]
