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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2005, 12:34:04 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2005, 01:44:55 AM »
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What about the bumps?

 I was under the impression that the G-14s by mid-'44 had been using the new cowls that had covered the bulges completely.


No the G-6/AS and G-14/AS had the new cowling. The standard G-14 didn't, it had the same cowl as the standard G-6.

Check the drawings:

G-14 No. 43

G-14 late

G-6/AS

G-6/AS

G-14/AS

G-14/AS early

G-14/AS late

Some G-10s:

G-10 WNr. 130000 series

G-10 WNr. 770000 series

K-4

K-4

The rest of drawings can be found here:

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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2005, 10:59:05 AM »
Either those drawings are incorrect, or our G14 is incorrect. The drawings and the model and the museum picture show planes with a half-moon bump over the wings, but we have a large swath of raised wing surface (like the K4) instead. I don't think that's accurate.

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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2005, 11:03:04 AM »
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Either those drawings are incorrect, or our G14 is incorrect. The drawings and the model and the museum picture show planes with a half-moon bump over the wings, but we have a large swath of raised wing surface (like the K4) instead. I don't think that's accurate.


Both of these wheel fairing variations could be found from G-14s.
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2005, 11:06:19 AM »
well it's odd that every line drawing of G6s, G14s, early and late, the random model kit image, and the random museum image -- in all of those none had the "swath" fairing. All have the "half moon" fairing.

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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2005, 11:07:55 AM »
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Both of these wheel fairing variations could be found from G-14s.


Yup, same with the G-10. From the SS they  don't look like 3D bulges so whom ever decides to do G-14 skins can change it as they like.

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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2005, 11:25:40 AM »
Incorrect. Look at the screenshot from below. At the leading edge of each wing you can see the bumps for the wheel housings. They are modeled in 3d.

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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2005, 12:10:53 PM »
Try looking at the AH SS

SS = AH screenshot not picture.

As I said the SS show the wheel fairings are not 3D and whom ever decides to skin a G-14 can chose which fairing type they want just be re-drawing the lines.

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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2005, 12:21:22 PM »
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Try looking at the AH SS

SS = AH screenshot not picture.

As I said the SS show the wheel fairings are not 3D and whom ever decides to skin a G-14 can chose which fairing type they want just be re-drawing the lines.


Yes, bruno, try looking at the AH SS. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I said:

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Incorrect. Look at the screenshot from below. At the leading edge of each wing you can see the bumps for the wheel housings. They are modeled in 3d.


Perhaps I should have said:


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Incorrect. Look at the screenshot posted that shows the angle from below. At the leading edge of each wing you can see the bumps for the wheel housings. They are modeled in 3d.


Regardless, I was clearly talking about the 3D model and the AH screenshots. Sorry if I was unclear.

The bumps are modeled in, not just skinned. That is what I said. You can see them if you look closely.

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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2005, 12:45:32 PM »
The bumps are modelled in, they are in 3D, they can not be changed by skinners.

The bumps in the G10 we have at the moment are modelled in, they can not be changed by skinners.

The bumps on the current G6 are NOT modelled in, they CAN be changed by skinners.
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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2005, 10:33:54 PM »
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The bumps are modelled in, they are in 3D, they can not be changed by skinners.

The bumps in the G10 we have at the moment are modelled in, they can not be changed by skinners.

The bumps on the current G6 are NOT modelled in, they CAN be changed by skinners.


yeah I see that now...

Krusty,

Apologies I misread your reply...

I took 'from below' to mean the picture posted above in this thread...

Its not really that big of a deal, all though I would have preferred the standard G-6 wheel bulges (allows more skinning options.

maybe someone should email whoever did the model and ask them to consider a fix, same with the armored head rest of the G-6 (ask for armored glass).

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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2005, 10:46:37 PM »
The Museum picture is of a replica 109G-14.

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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2005, 12:26:24 AM »
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The Museum picture is of a replica 109G-14.



You point is? Yes its a replica does that mean its not a 109G14, and from the looks of it its the same as a old G14.
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2005, 02:56:02 AM »
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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2005, 05:22:19 AM »
anyway with the tons of different upgrade kits available at this time, many 109's were unique planes :)
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