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Offline MiloMorai

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« Reply #75 on: October 09, 2005, 04:41:53 PM »
Right Hangtime, I had forgotten about West German AF.
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« Reply #76 on: October 09, 2005, 06:57:30 PM »
I miss the "old" Southwest of the 70's. It was a party at 30,000 ft. Reminded me of riding a casino party bus.
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« Reply #77 on: October 09, 2005, 07:43:44 PM »
why is it that when someone gets in trouble like this they change the rules or punish the rule makers. Seems to me that she was breaking the obscene clothing rule if people where complaining about her shirt.
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« Reply #78 on: October 09, 2005, 08:28:13 PM »
Unfortunately, there are a lot of clabber-brained people in our country who see nothing wrong with saying or displaying the "f" word in mixed company and in front of children.

The title of the movie "The twittlers" was a thinly veiled slap by hollywood at conventional mores.  We can expect more of the same from a branch of the media that is increasingly dominated by overgrown junior high students.

The first amendment was never meant to protect the public use of pornographic speech.
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« Reply #79 on: October 09, 2005, 09:29:31 PM »
yes it was, especially political commentary.


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« Reply #80 on: October 09, 2005, 11:00:57 PM »
Oh, that poor repressed woman. I'll bet they left jackboot prints all over her pretty little face.
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« Reply #81 on: October 10, 2005, 12:18:06 AM »
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And some reasons are against the law.

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And thats just one big problem with our country...A business owner should be able to refuse to provide a service to anyone they choose not to service..that includes bars and airlines, after all doesn't the owner "own" the business? The government shouldn't tell you that you HAVE to be nice to people you don't like or agree with even if it is morally wrong. The owner will have to pay for his lack of morals in the afterlife.

Kinda like these "right to work" states, where you actually have to have a good reason to fire someone, you can't just axe someone because you don't like them. idiotic and UN-AMERICAN
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« Reply #82 on: October 10, 2005, 12:30:55 AM »
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Southwest is a private company and the planes are their private property.  They should be able to decide who they let on for any damn reason they want.


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« Reply #83 on: October 10, 2005, 05:44:14 AM »
First this:

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After the plane stopped in Reno at noon Tuesday, she and her husband, Ron, moved to the front of the plane. Passengers began complaining about the T-shirt as they boarded.

After several conversations with flight attendants, Heasley agreed to cover the words by cuddling up with a sweatshirt. When the sweatshirt slipped while she was trying to sleep, she was ordered to wear her T-shirt inside-out or leave. The couple chose to leave.


It showed that the airline staff tried to accomidate her in the beginning. She could not fulfill her end so it was her choice.

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FAA spokesman Donn Walker said no federal rules exist on the subject.

"It's up to the airlines who they want to take and by what rules," he said. "The government just doesn't get into the business of what people wear on an aircraft."

"At any point when a passenger has a complaint against another and it becomes an issue that could disrupt the flight, our attendants have the discretion to take the appropriate action," said Phil Gee, spokesman for US Airways.


Clearly the airline acted within their rights, provided there was a 'U' in place of the 'O' as it clearly falls into their guidelines.

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McInnis said the rules filed with the FAA say the airline will deny boarding to any customer whose conduct is offensive, abusive, disorderly or violent or for clothing that is "lewd, obscene, or patently offensive."
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« Reply #84 on: October 10, 2005, 05:47:51 AM »
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Southwest is a private company and the planes are their private property.  They should be able to decide who they let on for any damn reason they want.


Well, kind of.
I don't believe they have a right to deny flights based on sex, race, religious orientation, etc.
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« Reply #85 on: October 10, 2005, 06:52:17 AM »
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Well, kind of.
I don't believe they have a right to deny flights based on sex, race, religious orientation, etc.


Why not? It's supposed to be a free market..and a free country...no where does our constitution say that the govt can tell you who MUST do business with Would it be right to be that way? Of course not. But there really is no right to be treated fair by your peers.
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« Reply #86 on: October 10, 2005, 08:13:27 AM »
If private property really meant anything then people could smoke in resteraunts and bars that the owner allowed... sadly... the governement has decieded that your property is theirs to govern.

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« Reply #87 on: October 10, 2005, 10:38:08 AM »
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yes it was, especially political commentary.


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You are wrong. The First Amendment does not provide for the protection of the display of profane language in public. So sayeth the U.S. Supreme Court. You cannot say or display whatever you so desire, and claim protection of free speach by invoking the First Amendment. There are common sense limitations. Public display of profane printed words just isn't protected.

What we have here is a prime example of a stupid attention potato. That's exactly the sort of people who wear that sort of thing in public. It's the general public version of the Internet BBS troll. She was so stupid she thought she could wear the shirt and piss people off with profane language and then scream about First Amendment free speech protection.
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« Reply #88 on: October 10, 2005, 12:31:27 PM »
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Why not? It's supposed to be a free market..and a free country...no where does our constitution say that the govt can tell you who MUST do business with Would it be right to be that way? Of course not. But there really is no right to be treated fair by your peers.


....and show me where it says you can discriminate and exclude people based on color/creed/sex/religious practice?
But then it no longer becomes free for those you exclude for reasons really out of their control (what sex they're born to, what religeon they practice, etc.). Remember everyone pays taxes and if a company is going to be practicing business, they pretty much have to follow Federal and State laws. They are benefitting from the priviledge for being allowed to do business where they're at.
No free ride, not even for businesses.

This of course does not mean they have to allow stupidity/rudeness/obsenity/etc conduct from their customers.
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« Reply #89 on: October 10, 2005, 01:15:59 PM »
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The first amendment was never meant to protect the public use of pornographic speech.


You are correct. It was meant to protect all speech.

All:
the whole amount or quantity of
any, whatever
as much as possible
EVERY
to a full extent or degree
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