Author Topic: Silent Hunter III fans (Read 2413 times)

deSelys · « **on:** October 12, 2005, 07:12:03 AM »

I just bought it this noon...

What (and where) are the patches/mods that I need to download?
I've already downloaded 1.4b, are there unofficial ones?

Hangtime · « **Reply #1 on:** October 12, 2005, 07:30:31 AM »

The hell with the goofy sub game.. how'd yah make out with the rifle?

Curval · « **Reply #2 on:** October 12, 2005, 07:45:53 AM »

There are a bunch of mods out there..a BUNCH.

I d/l'd and installed "Improved U-Boat" which was done by Orgy.

Be careful with respect to the mods...many of them are designed to be more realistic while also updating certian graphics...such as improved water, improved smoke etc etc.

Frankly I wish I'd never "modded" at all. Some of the "improvements" I do not like at all and to fix it I am going to have to do a whole bunch of mucking around OR reload the game from scratch and patch. That will probably cause me to lose my current career which I don't want!!!

deSelys · « **Reply #3 on:** October 12, 2005, 07:56:30 AM »

Thanks for your concern, Hang, but I wasn't able to go try it yesterday evening.

I've been away from home the two previous WE (skydiving and some kind of "Belgium police and fire games") and, besides being pretty pooped, I was shot down in flame by wife ack when I let slip that I might go out to try a rifle that I might buy...

Gimme a week and the wife problem should be fixed

Hangtime · « **Reply #4 on:** October 12, 2005, 09:08:48 AM »

LOL.. for shame.. get the gun, keep yer trap shut. Always easier to beg forgiveness (and take her to dinner) afterwards than it is to get permission beforehand. If we allowed women to decide for us the effacy of gun ownership we'd become England in a heatbeat. Concentration Camps all across Europe were once populated by women that hated guns and the men that listened to 'em.

Good luck on the Sub Races.

Nefarious · « **Reply #5 on:** October 12, 2005, 10:53:57 AM »

I use Patch 1.4b and RUB (Real U Boat) 1.43.

They now have RUB 1.44, but Im not going to download it, Theres really nothing new in it enough for me to consider downloading it. Plus Im already into a new career, and Im not risking it.

beet1e · « **Reply #6 on:** October 12, 2005, 11:40:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval

Frankly I wish I'd never "modded" at all. Some of the "improvements" I do not like at all and to fix it I am going to have to do a whole bunch of mucking around OR reload the game from scratch and patch. That will probably cause me to lose my current career which I don't want!!!

I didn't bother applying the player patches, and in light of curv's experience I'm glad I didn't. I suspected it might lead to that. The standard game is fine. I don't want a yellow submarine. For as long as I've played these games, I've never understood the hoopla with regard to "skins" etc., even though Nopoop did very kindly try to explain.

I've very much enjoyed playing SH3. I've learned a lot about torpedo systems, and submarine tactics used for evading destroyers. You need a lot of patience though. It took me a long time to learn the necessary tactics to get into the Scapa Flow and destroy the Revenge battleship. Wall of text continues after pic...

DeSelys - if you'd like, you can copy down my game save file and unzip it to your own game save folder. When loaded, it will put you right in Scapa Flow, with a destroyer and the Revenge battleship directly ahead at about 900m! The destroyer is easily killed with a torpedo set with a cruising depth of 2m and an impact pistol.

The battleship is tougher. What I did to kill this one was to launch a salvo of two torps, each with a magnetic pistol, using a spread angle of 4° and a cruising depth of 9m. The draft of the Revenge battleship is 8.5m so the torps will detonate directly underneath the keel, breaking the ship's back.

Practise killing them both, and try different settings till you get it right!

Beet1e's Scapa Flow .ZIP save file

^ It's a furballer's dream - puts you right in at the action within seconds of having to push the FIRE button, and avoids all that silly realism/strat nonsense.

Although the maps are kind of big!

As for realism in SH3, I like the external view because I want to see how it would have looked in WW2. I like the event camera to see how well my aim was. And I can't be arsed with dealing with dud torpedoes, so my realism level is only about 64% LOL.

Nefarious · « **Reply #7 on:** October 12, 2005, 05:49:55 PM »

I like RUB, but I didnt when I first got it.

I tweaked it using a patch that tweaked a few of the changed settings in RUB. For example the deck gun reload time, The Water visability, And the Map option. Everything else I kept.

So I guess I use two patches

But anyway, stuff that never happened to me is now happening to me with RUB, and its so much better.

Saintaw · « **Reply #8 on:** October 13, 2005, 06:08:36 AM »

The mods work just fine if you keep to what´s posted in the readme. Also do a copy of your installed files before you mod them (I backed up the entire directory )

you want to look on subsim.com they have a bunch of nice mods that work fine there.

Curval · « **Reply #9 on:** October 13, 2005, 06:20:12 AM »

Well, I had to reinstall 4.1b last night because that was the only way to remove the Improved U-Boat mod. Unfortunatley I did not use the utility that helps install and uninstall mods...I would recommend trying that if you are using mods as it allows seamless transitions apparently.

So, after backing up my SH3 directory in My Documents (as advised) I reinstalled.

After patching I then tried to run my old career. I CTD'd. Tried again CTD'd. Tried a third time...CTD'd.

Started a new career.

beet1e · « **Reply #10 on:** October 13, 2005, 06:23:25 AM »

Saw - how much do these mods add to the authenticity of SH3's attempts to model the RL WW2 sub warfare experience? If we're just talking about a different paint scheme in the command room, or slightly different effects with the ocean waves, I'd say it's not worth bothering. The ubisoft official 1.4b mod was well worth having though.

I'm not interested in all that "career" stuff either, or comparing notes on how many million tonnes we've each sunk. I much prefer the single missions...

...but there are only about ten such single missions included in the game. Are there any more single missions that can be downloaded from ubisoft? Now THAT would interest me.

beet1e · « **Reply #11 on:** October 13, 2005, 06:26:22 AM »

Curval - I had a similar thing happen. As far as I know I didn't have any career data saved - unless it saves itself on exiting the game. But I did have a whole load of saved games from single mission activity. After installing 1.4b, all those game saves were rendered useless. Same deal - CTD.

deSelys · « **Reply #12 on:** October 13, 2005, 06:39:41 AM »

Beet1e: there are small mods that, once installed, give you plotting tools (i.e. nomograph) in the chart room to help you plot a firing solution.

But I agree that if you play at 65% realism you don't need them.

This sim is awesome. Played it until 03.30 am last night

Nefarious · « **Reply #13 on:** October 13, 2005, 06:44:41 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
...but there are only about ten such single missions included in the game. Are there any more single missions that can be downloaded from ubisoft? Now THAT would interest me.

Yes, but screw Ubi, go to Subsim.com

In RUB you can actually take damage, and survive. I recall an occasion where I was DC'd for nearly 3 hours, I had three wounded and One dead, The explosions caused me to sink in shallow water, everytime I tried to sneak away and start the pumps they would find me and DC me again.

RUB adds a whole crap load of fixes such as realistic shipping in harbors and in the open ocean, A damage model superior to boxed version.

takeda · « **Reply #14 on:** October 13, 2005, 07:00:58 AM »

I'm a tinkerer, so when I got SHIII I inmediately started trying to decipher the 3D format so people could mod stuff. I played for 3 or 4 hours tops and spent the rest of my SHIII related time staring at matrix-like hex editor listings. By the time I had most of the format broken I lost all interest in SHIII, so I passed on all my stuff to others which, judging from the mods forums seem to have succeeded at making new ships and stuff.
Well, I guess I too had fun with SHIII, though I can't recall sinking a single ship.