Checksix, in defense of Warbirds, they have a fine product, just ignore the attitudes of Lemming and Hotseat, fly the sim, ignore the elitism, and you'll enjoy it,....if the company goes out of business, so be it, HTC will always be here. Their graphics are stunning in WBIII, but, as an original beta tester in CK (WB's in the early days) to WB2.76...its just the same ol' to me (Along with connections, I left).