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Offline gatt

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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2005, 09:33:36 AM »
Ah yes, if you are an La-7 fan, RPS is not great at all.
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2005, 10:25:35 AM »
The main difference is the fact that WB (not warbirds) is a thieving POS who could'nt run a game company to save his own bellybutton without ripping someone off. Therefore, I won't even consider downloading any game that might end up putting one penny in his pocket. :aok

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2005, 10:29:29 AM »
Someone post some pics of the newest WB, don't think I have even heard of it.  :(

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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2005, 12:26:25 PM »
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IN Warbirds FM's are beeing reviwed as we speak .  

More than 20 versions of 109:s for example are beeing tested in Beta now
Most of them are early 109s.

New FM's beeing tested in Beta :

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Spitfire M20 MkIIc
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There was no such thing as a Spitfire Mk IIc.  There was a Spitfire Mk IIb, but it had such horrible jamming issues that it really shouldn't be considered a service aircraft, more a service test of a prototype.
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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2005, 12:53:03 PM »
Was a WarBirder back in WB2 days, was a member of the "Volunteers" (non-historical squad in the Historical Arena) and ran Grupul 7 Vanatoare for a short while in the MA and scenarios (about 6 months, up til I left). I left when WarBirds III came out, I hated it in beta and didn't see it getting any better. Left even though I had been offered a CM slot. I thought it was getting THAT bad.

Personally, I absolutely loved the Rolling Planeset, its one of the things I miss the most. Everytime the set moved up, you would haver a new "uberplane" (or at least uber compared to what was out previously), and for those of us who refused to fly uber rides, it was a good challenge. For example, the first day or two with the SpitV, 109F, and 190A, those planes would rule the sky- until a day or two later, when the plane that was put into service to counter them IRL became available, then the balance would shift back. As the "war" progressed, increasingly the balance would swing toward the Allies as planes like the Pony came out (last few days, that was all you saw). Personally I flew 109s almost exclusively, and once the G6 came out, that was all you would see me in. :)

The other thing I really miss about them is that in the WWII arena, it was Axis vs Allies. You didn't have these silly SpitV vs PonyD vs La7 fights, and you also didn't have the somewhat bizarre (at least in my opinion) situation of of being and buff-busting, B-24 and Lanc killing machine... in a P-38. Early on, the Axis would have a pretty good set, with the Ju88 and Stuka (which is actually a pretty effective plane in an all 1940 arena), Val, Betty and Kate. Then once the American Heavies started to come on, the balance swung to them and never came back- much like IRL. I miss the historical matchups something fierce, but I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that we'll never have them.

And I have to say, if one of your major gripes about a WWII flight sim is that your plane doesn't have in flight radar, then you've been flying AH way too long. ;)

But I have to say, for the major things I miss about WB- and the things I don't like about AH- I wouldn't go back. It used to ba, way back when, that I tried AH and went right back to WB without a second thought. Then it was a tossup between the two. Now AH wins hands down. for all its (IMO) shortcomings, its still the best package out there.
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2005, 12:54:44 PM »
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It is based on a game that HT & Pyro developed and worked on .


...And Natedog, Sudz, Ronni & Superfly.
Why does everyone always leave the rest of us out when talking about WB/DOA/etc.? :cry
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2005, 12:55:17 PM »
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...And Natedog, Sudz, Ronni & Superfly.
Why does everyone always leave the rest of us out when talking about WB/DOA/etc.? :cry


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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2005, 01:10:51 PM »
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Ah yes, if you are an La-7 fan, RPS is not great at all.


AKA if you're a Rook, RPS's aren't fun at all.
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2005, 02:56:06 PM »
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...And Natedog, Sudz, Ronni & Superfly.
Why does everyone always leave the rest of us out when talking about WB/DOA/etc.? :cry


If I were you I would be more concerned by the incredible number of "Superfly" who are shot down offline each day :D

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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2005, 04:08:20 PM »
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AKA if you're a Rook, RPS's aren't fun at all.


You evil.



SUPERFLY! The Macchi's dad :) (IIRC)
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« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2005, 08:51:52 AM »
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Originally posted by SUPERFLY
...And Natedog, Sudz, Ronni & Superfly.
Why does everyone always leave the rest of us out when talking about WB/DOA/etc.? :cry

Why ? 1st off, Cuz, I didn't know ........ "Sorry "...
Simple as that ....

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God the BK's are some some ugly mo-fo's. Please no more pictures, I'm going blind Bet your mothers don't even love ya cause u'all sooooooooo F******* ulgy.

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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2005, 09:15:33 AM »
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Just out of interest, what is it about rolling set you fellers dislike so much?

Regards [/B]


 What  I did not like about RPS ( and one of  3 prime reasons I quit WarBirds )

 I did not like being forced to play a game with flying slugs for half a month, not having any choice, being stuck with dumb slow fighters, making for dumb & slow game play .

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God the BK's are some some ugly mo-fo's. Please no more pictures, I'm going blind Bet your mothers don't even love ya cause u'all sooooooooo F******* ulgy.

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« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2005, 10:43:15 AM »
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What  I did not like about RPS ( and one of  3 prime reasons I quit WarBirds )

 I did not like being forced to play a game with flying slugs for half a month, not having any choice, being stuck with dumb slow fighters, making for dumb & slow game play .

   CHECKERS


Uhm, "fast and slow", "good turner", "good climber" ... are relative terms in a dogfight, not absolute features. I mean, (and sorry for my english) a C.202 is indeed a slow fighter, but it is quite faster than a Hurricane MkI. Same thing is valid for a Spitfire MkIa and a C.202 as far as turning ability is concerned.
Or you measure speed only looking at the gauges and the trees flying at 100ft?

Its strange how many players feel like fishes out of the water without their late war monsters. Many of those players dont like 1940-43 scenarios for the same reasons. And those scenarios are the most interesting becouse they are *balanced*. But they require skills. At least on the allied side.
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« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2005, 01:34:55 PM »
Watch a fight between a well flown 109E and a Spit I, or between an A6M2 and P-40B, etc. Anything but slow and dumb. More like a knife fight in an airline bathroom.

You have to actually fight the guy, can't just say "well, hes behind me, time to hit the WEP and zoom away at 450mph."

Some of the best fights I had in WB were in the first few days of the tour when a flight of us in 109Es would escort some Stukas or Ju88s to take out a field, and be met by a flight of Spit Is and Hurri Is. Long, brutal fight, and extremely satisfying to survive it.

And if you say that the P-40 against the Zero wasn't a good fight, you never flew with Tarzan or Dracer. :eek:
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« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2005, 01:47:15 PM »
Yup. WarBirds hit its finest times, when it defaulted the main arena into WW2 Rolling Plane Set, with Axis vs. Allied rides, planes changing as the war progressed. Was it six weeks or so, when you got from 1939 setting into 1945. There were several variations of the RPS system, with one attempt with "generations", another with steady RPS feeding new types to the fight somewhat simulating the WW2 progression. It was and IS absolute best when you get those planes that are somewhat similar to each other, or well not similar but more or less equal, from same timespan.

It is definitely still worst thing at AH to have this fantasy arena that gives all the monster planes to anybody at any moment, but that is AH's choise. It was the way of Air Warrior too and WarBirds at the old times, and unfortunately it is the way of WarBirds 2005 (WB3) these days as well. It is easiest to cater for the shoot'em'crowd who cannot fly but their single best performing mount, never to enjoy the challenges of other planes. Unfortunately, flying a Hurricane I against hordes of La-7s and P-51s and Doras is extremerely hard, though fun.

And there is nothing like the EMC scenario series in the sim history. S3s, bah. EMCs ruled the historical scenarios. Greatest fun ever, back then. EMCs and S3s are still running, though I don't know how well.