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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2005, 07:32:26 PM »
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We so invaded the wrong Middle eastern **** hole.


Give this man a cigar.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2005, 08:14:46 PM »
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Give this man a cigar.


Are you saying that we should have invaded another Middle East country? Which one, and for what reasons?
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2005, 08:18:09 PM »
Bet if we Nuked SA at least 3 times... watermelon would cease and we'd own the Worlds largest Glass and Dimond land.  It's like cuttin the head off the snake and the tail will die.

Gotta luv Rudy G. in NYC when offered the big check from that SA Bastage, shortly after 9/11, he threw it back into his face!

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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2005, 09:05:10 PM »
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We so invaded the wrong Middle eastern **** hole.


Which country should we have invaded, and for what reasons?

I am about 99% certain you will not answer, and 100 % certain that if you do answer, you will  look bad.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2005, 09:08:38 PM »
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You think it's outdated that they lash people, but not that they're punishing him for speaking his mind?


G'damnit, can't you read what I said just couple of minutes later!?

THE WHOLE FRIGGIN MEDIEVAL SENTANCE WAS CRITISIZING OF THE OUTDATED LAWS OUT THERE!

Is it now readable for you too?

Selective reading & comprehension crap...
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2005, 09:11:14 PM »
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G'damnit, can't you read what I said just couple of minutes later!?

THE WHOLE FRIGGIN MEDIEVAL SENTANCE WAS CRITISIZING OF THE OUTDATED LAWS OUT THERE!

Is it now readable for you too?

Selective reading & comprehension crap...


SO I'm confused you are saying that you don't like the sentence (IE the lashes) but he's still a criminal?  :huh
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2005, 09:16:28 PM »
hehehehhehhehehehheh..

gawd, whotta tool. :aok
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2005, 09:39:19 PM »
Hello Fishu,

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I'm becoming ever more convinced to resign from the church with all the issues with different religions.
Christianity isn't all that good either, we're only couple of hundred years ahead of Islam - culturally.
Seems to be only more trouble, and I don't need religion to know the right from wrong.


I'm curious about your statements above, but I don't want to take you out of context or put words into your mouth. So please let me know what you think.

You state that Christianity is "only a few hundred years ahead of Islam - culturally", this would seem to indicate that you believe that the purpose of religion is to reflect the progressive edge of the culture and to change as the culture changes. Therefore presumably, if the progressives in the culture are currently saying that adultery is wrong, the church will also preach adultery is wrong, then if a few years later the progressives decide adultery is ok, the church will change it's stance and preach that adultery is ok. Thus as the culture changes, or "evolves" as some would put it, "Christianity" must evolve with it, and so too must its declarations of right and wrong.

If that is the case what is right and what is wrong?  Is it what the culture thought a hundred years ago, or what the culture thinks today, or what it will think a hundred years from now? I'm really eager to get your answer to that question in particular.

Does God have any opinion on these matters or does he change his mind to reflect the culture? If so, what kind of God is He? Do we really believe such an arbitrary and culture defined being even exists? Why bother with religion at all, if it really is only intended to mimic the popular culture.

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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2005, 12:53:54 AM »
See Rule #4
« Last Edit: November 18, 2005, 05:45:39 PM by Skuzzy »
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2005, 01:00:54 AM »
See Rule #4.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2005, 05:46:03 PM by Skuzzy »
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2005, 01:22:39 AM »
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I'm curious about your statements above, but I don't want to take you out of context or put words into your mouth. So please let me know what you think.


It was more about that how important part a religion has in a state..
Couple of hundreds years ago christianity had an important part in the politics, but nowadays the church doesn't anymore have even nearly as much influence on the politics and people aren't as motivated to defend their political views with religion, or defend the religion with strict laws.

In the middle east the religion has an important part in the politics - it is present in every day life and has a state reinforced status.
Without a doubt it also affects the culture.
As such, I'd say the middle east is culturally (religion wise) about couple of hundred years behind the west.
Over time they will become more liberal with the religion like the west, but that will take at least hundred years.

Hopefully this answers your question... and hopefully there wasn't too many grammatical errors mixing it up.


I'm not so fond of a religion controlling the daily life of people, even less the politics.
People who want to follow a religion can do so, but they shouldn't dismiss the 'pagans' for not doing so or tell others what to do because of their religion.
The muslim countries are pretty much all doing the opposite, behaving like the christian countries in the past.
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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2005, 03:55:53 AM »
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In the middle east the religion has an important part in the politics - it is present in every day life and has a state reinforced status.


As I understand it, there is a delicate balance the Saudi Royals play with the Wahabbi clerics.

If the royals denounced the Wahabbi's the Sauds would be out on thier collective ass.

I think it is more the Wahabbi Clerics giving the Saudi family legitimacy instead of the royals supporting the clerics.
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2005, 05:00:15 AM »
Simple solution to the relevancy of those freaks. ANWAR. Drill it. In the meantime, make hydro-cells feasable and cost nuetral. The technology is there, it just has to be refined to make it safe for the general idiot on the street.
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2005, 05:21:29 AM »
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Simple solution to the relevancy of those freaks. ANWAR. Drill it. In the meantime, make hydro-cells feasable and cost nuetral. The technology is there, it just has to be refined to make it safe for the general idiot on the street.


ANWAR is just a temporary solution, but by all means drill it. Everything in this society runs on oil and fuell cells aren't gonna change that, also there's not enuff platinum available to make them ever feasible and cost effective in a large scale. Hydrogen is just a medium, how are you going to produce it cost effectively? Nuclear power is one option but we are running low on uranium also, it's price will skyrocket if there's any major increase in nuclear power production.
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2005, 09:52:56 AM »
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Are you saying that we should have invaded another Middle East country? Which one, and for what reasons?


Saudi Arabia.

Fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were Saudi. According to the 9/11 Commission, Saudi Arabia was a rich fund-raising ground for al Qaeda.
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