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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #90 on: December 24, 2001, 04:55:00 AM »
His daddy being gay is important because politically/socially/culturally most gays I know in the Bay Area are very very left wing. I have always said it was the leftist lifestly of rich progressive USA coastal elite hypocrite ungratful amazinhunks who hate the USA that led johnny talib to take these choices in life.

I belive its relevant politically, and remember I never said anything bad or against gays being gay, I do have trouble with so many of them being very very left wing and often leftist in politics. Thats all.

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« Reply #91 on: December 24, 2001, 08:26:00 AM »
Amazing...You go from one predudice to another Grun.First it's gays and now it's gay politics.How can it be "America The Free" when certain peoples are persecuted and denied basic rights?
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« Reply #92 on: December 24, 2001, 09:05:00 AM »
merry christmas? You can't say that!  What about the non-Christians that post on this board?!?!?!  Shame on you all!   :D

As for the scholarship...  uhmm, if it's a privately sponsored scholarship, they can give it to whomever they damn well please.  If you dislike it so much, endow your OWN scholarship and give it to whomever you think is fit to receive it.  Now if it's a government sponsored scholarship, you've got an issue here.

As for John Walker...  I'd like some red label please.  straight up.   :)  Oh, you mean the louse infested handsomehunk.  Put a bullet in his head and be done with it.
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« Reply #93 on: December 24, 2001, 12:39:00 PM »
SirLoin it was never about gays at all, find anything in my posts that says anything bad about people being gay, However you are right It has always been about gay related politics- especially in PC obssesed SF bay area.

Really find one thing in my posts where I say anything bad about gay people being gay, you wont, its always about politics.


Listen Sirloin you seem to be  affected by PC too much where any political criticizm of "special" groups political activity like gays is automatically equated with discrimination and intollerance. Why do you do this.


Plese admit that you honestly cant fing any anti-gay message in my post, there are none. All my negativity is directed at the left leaing attitudes of most gays in the BAY Area that I know.


There is no message in any of my posts critcising gay people for being gay, none, its all about politics.

Please understand that, please please please please please. LOL shim im practically begging you.

Listen Im trying really hard to make it clear I have nothing against gays except when it comes to PC-nazi obssesed gay issue politics. I know Its hard for PC types to understand that my anger is only directed at the PC politics and not gay people, I know its hard for them to swallow that and they get confused then call me names and revert to standard PC texboot blackmail techniques.

I dont know what else to say...... How can I be more clear, help me explain this to you.


Honestly now I urge you to ask me specfic questions if you dont understand anything about my stance in this argument.

Please do trhat If you are concerned about this.

Im trying hard to find some understanding between us.

Thanks and once again, Merry Christmas All.

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« Reply #94 on: December 24, 2001, 08:10:00 PM »
Grun,yes there is a "Loony Left" and it sux.But there is also a "Loony Right"..(eg..Pat Robertson,Pat Buchannon..etc)Do you honestly think Gays could be a political force on the "right" end of the spectrum?
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« Reply #95 on: December 26, 2001, 11:27:00 AM »
OK, one more try.

Grunherz, I understand you think Gays should be treated equally. That is good. However you hate the "PC" crowd and "leftist politics", I get your point.

OK, then you must have some understanding of how a phrase like "now we find out his father is gay, figures", might be read as an attack on gays, and not "gay politics". I hope you can at least concede that there could be a misunderstanding.

Now lets look at your other perceived prejudice. When you say "PC" crowd, what does that mean exactly. Can you define it without speaking in generalities like "leftists" or "PC-nazi obsessed gay issue politics"?

At 21 you may be too young to remember how things were before the PC movement. "Negro" was often part of any decription in the news of a black man no matter what the context of the story. "Babe" and "doll" were often used IN THE WORKPLACE when talking to a female coworker. The PC movement changed all that. Admittedly people have tried to take it to extremes in many cases, like deleting all male references to God in the Bible (stupid).

But some changes that were fought tooth and nail 20 years ago are now common. The Postman is now a Mail Carrier. The Fireman, is a Firefighter. Many more examples exist that have been beneficial to women and minorities over the years.    

So when you say "PC Crowd" as a derogatory remark, then you are also including many people who have made strides in a positive direction for needed social change. Hating any group of people as a group is prejudiced and should be avoided.

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« Reply #96 on: December 26, 2001, 12:28:00 PM »
Sorry, but As an American citizen, he shall face the full brunt of the legal system.  If it is treason he is tried for and convicted then he shall be dealt with accordingly.  I don't care if he is 20 or 15 or whatever.  He broke the law, he fought, CIA operative is dead he shall pay and meet his maker.  An example has to be made, and if the press wasn't so knee deep over there and american soldiers found out he was an American what are the chances we would have even found out about him?  God knows the soldiers wouldn't have let him (out of that country).  

One Porterhouse steak, side of carrots, will be a nice starting for his last meal.

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« Reply #97 on: December 26, 2001, 12:54:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Sachs:
One Porterhouse steak, side of carrots, will be a nice starting for his last meal.


 Don't ya think pork chops and apple sauce would be more fitting?  ;)

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« Reply #98 on: December 26, 2001, 01:05:00 PM »
Absolutely I agree, there was a misunderestanding. I just figured that people would see it as directed in a political/social sense, because in my experience here in the bay area gays are very much the progresssive, I simply assumed that peple would see it that way. I shoyld have been more clear and immediatly explain my reasoing.

Please dont call my hatred of PC politics a "prejudice", words like racism, prejudice are textboox PC scare hate blackmail scare tactic phrases. They are overused, meaningless and outdated. I would prefrer that you accept that as my decision and judgemnt on the PC issue and not as some uninformed knee-jerk reaction.

Why do I hate PC so much?

Well first of all I am only 21 and I DONT rememmber when the word NEGRO or cupcake was used in daily life, furthermore I never saw in my life COLORED waiting rooms or COLRED lunch counters, I never saw the bus driver order black people to the back, I never saw  any of that. Can you guess why? Well its not diddlying 1965 any more, the civil rights movement worked, MLK did it he did it he changed the country just like Gandhi changed India. He got the vast majority of whites to change their attitudes and see the evils of racism. It worked. Thats why I as a 21 year old dont see that garbage in the USA today.
The civil rights era did great things and was a great and just cause.

PC roadkill is entirely seperate to me and has nothing at all to do with civil rights, It has all to do with liberal rich white peoples guilt. They came up with it. They are the ones who supported it intially, it was a very progressive thing back then. It may have been a nice idea but it has become a terrible pointless monster. My school put up these signs, "DEANZA IS A HATE FREE ZONE", a typicall PC roadkill meaingless slogan. Lets examine it: Will a KKK lunatic racist just read that one day and think, Oh lord Im mistaken iin my hatred and will now stop? Will it? Will it?, No it wont. All its there to do is to make guilt ridden rich all their lives liberal kids feel better anouth their insrecurites because they put up a sign. You know I made this comment to an Intercultral Sudies teacher of mine and she told me privatly that Im right about this but that this kind of idea would get me in trouble with many people. In  fact most of my ideas on politics are very complex, its very easy to characterise me as a bad guy by any side as I pick and choose supposedly contradictory postions.

For example:

I fully support civil rights but I hate with all my heart and soul PC politics.

To me they are not related. The sooner peoplew accept this the dsonner this country and her people will get along better.

PC is roadkill garbage. It is not representative of the cvil rights movement.


TahGut are you begging to see my stance here, again if you have any specific quesions plese ask.

And thanks for taking that brave step trying to find common ground, I appriciate it. In fact I belive our postions are much closer than you think. <S>

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« Reply #99 on: December 26, 2001, 01:08:00 PM »
BTW sorry about my whacky spelling, I feel its much more important to get my ideas down than to worry about spelling- this goes for my posts here on the BBS.  :)

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« Reply #100 on: December 26, 2001, 01:11:00 PM »
I blame it all on those soccer moms!
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« Reply #101 on: December 26, 2001, 01:29:00 PM »
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I think he'll walk in the end. Make the talk show circuits and move to SE FL and be OJ's best bud.

WHat should HAVE happened? He and every other Taliban "prisoner" should have been shot on the spot.
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« Reply #102 on: December 26, 2001, 04:28:00 PM »
BTW, one of my presents this year was Johnny Walker....in a Black label...... I asked for blue, but damn thats expensive!  

The other JW IMHO is scum and deserves to be left to the devices of his adopted Country.

As for the PC question Grun, I suggest we start a new thread. There is so much more to say.

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« Reply #103 on: September 09, 2016, 07:56:14 PM »
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« Reply #104 on: September 09, 2016, 08:57:46 PM »
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