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« Reply #105 on: December 09, 2005, 11:34:34 AM »
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« Reply #106 on: December 09, 2005, 12:22:16 PM »
All this chest thumping (on both sides) got me to thinking.....of the folks in this thread who said either is great or bad....how many airmiles do you fly a year.

I'm just curious really.   I don't fly as much as I used to, but not too long ago, I used log close to 100k airmiles a year, and I never gave alot of thought to the type of plane I flew in.  I did, however, care more about the airline and it's practices.

I can remember not choosing to fly NWA if I could, because of the average age of their fleet, stuff like that.

So, let's see an informal poll on the posters in this thread....how many airmiles to you average per year?

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« Reply #107 on: December 09, 2005, 01:33:07 PM »
This year: HEL-EWR-HEL JFK-FLL-JFK. None of those legs in a Boeing or an Airbus, thankfully it's still possible to avoid them.

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« Reply #108 on: December 09, 2005, 01:36:18 PM »
I dont know how many airmiles I fly a year, but in the last year I have been averaging 3 airline flights a week.  Slowing down now though thankfully, but will be flying on Monday and Tuesday.

Doesnt bother me who made the airplane.  I prefer Boeing, but dont hesitate to fly Airbus.

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« Reply #109 on: December 09, 2005, 02:11:49 PM »
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All this chest thumping  

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I don't fly as much as I used to, but not too long ago, I used log close to 100k airmiles a year, and I never gave alot of thought to the type of plane I flew in.  


:rofl

Anyway, back to the point, ummm, last I checked, airmiles did not equate preference. Nor did business airmiles equate that you had a choice, either. You're usually driven by schedule or by an office administrator (we used to call those "secretaries"but I guess that is no longer politically correct) who is instructed to book with certain airlines.

I'd like to say my preference once again. I prefer Boeing Aircraft (aka, if it ain't Boeing I ain't going)

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« Reply #110 on: December 09, 2005, 05:23:01 PM »
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:rofl

Anyway, back to the point,  (aka, if it ain't Boeing I ain't going)


Hehe...Rip, you chose to respond but not to answer.  It's a non-threatening question.

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« Reply #111 on: December 09, 2005, 05:29:06 PM »
Not sure about miles, but I fly about 6-7 times a year for business.

I never check to see which plane, and I rarely check the Airline (except Southwest, I hate the cattle car). I do like seat (IIRC) 22A on the 757. Exit row window with 1st class leg room.... ahhhhhhhhhh.

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« Reply #112 on: December 09, 2005, 05:54:11 PM »
My overseas flights are almost always on 747's.  I like that airplane.  I fly mostly United on those.....United is ok, but I prefer Singapore Airlines or even Cathay Pacific.  BA isn't too bad, I guess, but the Asian Carriers know what service is all about.  SwissAir is ok too...took them from Karachi to Dubai and then to Zurich and finally back to Boston.

Once though I had to fly from Karachi to Lahore and you can only use Pakistani Air....freaking scary!

On the leg out to Lahore, I was on a 747 that still had the circular staircase to Business Class in the upper deck.  Interior knobs weren't working, all kinds of stuff.  Plus, and I apologize to Straffo, but before we left the gate a French business man was making a scene because he bought a business class ticket, but there were no seats left there when he boarded.  Long story short, they took him off with armed guards....scared the crap out of me.

On the way back to Karachi, I flew on an Airbus.  Brand new...was really nice.  I draw the comparison not because of manufacturers but because of how Pakistani Air maintained their fleet.

Now I did refuse to fly from Shenzhen to Shangai once because it was going to be on China South Airlines.

Thai Airlines is ok....used to fly them from Bangkok to Sri Lanka a few times.

I fly mainly to Europe these days....to Brussels of all places....and yes Saw has been my tour guide once......just once..hehe.  I fly United for that and I think they use Boeings..777 or 767 maybe.  Very nice airplane.  I use American for my Mexico City flying, but after my last trip, I'm thinking of switching to Continental.

My wife used to fly Alitalia alot when she would go back to Italy to visit her family.  She said two things about them....They Never EVER left on time, but the food was pretty decent.

But the BEST by far Domestic airline for me is Midwest Express!!!  Especially when they used to have the meal service and those chocolate chip cookies.  If you ever have the chance to fly Midwest Express, you should absolutely do it.  They us an MD designation airplane, I believe.

EDIT** Oh and one airport I don't ever want to have to fly into again is Roanoke.  Was on a turbo-prop into there about 2 years ago, and the winds were blowing about 30 mph in that bowl were the airport sits.....Holy crap was that a ride to the runway....we hit turbulence so bad that my head hit the overhead compartment, and a lady a couple of rows ahead of me kept screaming that the pilot was trying to kill us.

An airport I wish would still be in service is the old HK airport...man that was fun flying between apartment buildings seeing people hang laundry on the approach to landing.
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« Reply #113 on: December 09, 2005, 06:04:57 PM »
Hah...  If you don't like southwest, don't bother trying ryanair if you're ever in Europe.  Cross a southwest flight with a European soccer match, and that's ryanair.  They even have plans to try giving away the tickets for free, and making their profit with inflight gambling.  That'll sure raise the average quality of the passengers...
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« Reply #114 on: December 09, 2005, 06:23:08 PM »
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China just ordered 150 new A320's.


Of course China has a habit of shooting it's own people...kind of abortion after the fact.

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« Reply #115 on: December 09, 2005, 06:52:35 PM »
I'd like to hear Rip's comment about Tupolevs having better statistics this year than his admired Boeing.

Boy it must hurt; a commie junk plane being more reliable than his precious Boeing :rofl

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« Reply #116 on: December 09, 2005, 07:39:30 PM »
I love Tupolev's. Built for 3rd class runways, lowest ground pressure of any type in existance. Sure they crash, get blown up, mishandled - but so do MD-80s, Boeings of all types, Airbus's and Saabs, and Embrairs, Douglas's, Folker's, Cessna's, Beechees', Mooneys, Augusta's, Sikorsky's.

Eh ****, ya know - all types crash. IT DEPENDS ON maintnence and crew training if you live. But certainly heavier on the latter.

I fly because life is boring without being around 4000 spare parts in close formation.

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« Reply #117 on: December 09, 2005, 08:08:17 PM »
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I'd like to hear Rip's comment about Tupolevs having better statistics this year than his admired Boeing.

Boy it must hurt; a commie junk plane being more reliable than his precious Boeing :rofl

Why do you focus on this year? Why not air safety since 1920? Care to compare that? Whats special about this year? Is it due to a stellar year for Tupolev?

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« Reply #118 on: December 09, 2005, 10:16:47 PM »
Incidently, every 5 seconds, a 737, one model type of a Boeing aircraft, takes off from an airport somewhere in the world. Think about that Staga, when you compare stats.  If you have 100 Volvos racing around a track, and 10 BMW's, which model is more likely to have a higher chance of an accident? I made this a simple scenario so you'd understand the power of statistics.

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« Reply #119 on: December 09, 2005, 10:37:44 PM »
when will the A380 crash?what will the crash site look like?