Author Topic: "I'm not afraid of execution!" (Read 907 times)

Gunthr · « **on:** December 05, 2005, 06:11:28 PM »

No kidding, Saddam. That is because you are elderly, and you know with certainty that you won't suffer the extreme torture that makes death a mercy, as you and your rascal boys committed on men, women and children.

SMIDSY · « **Reply #1 on:** December 05, 2005, 06:42:20 PM »

shut up. one word: dresden

quit taking it so personal.

Gunthr · « **Reply #2 on:** December 05, 2005, 06:58:33 PM »

Torture is the issue, not fire bombing.

I will take you down one peg, because you were not germain, and because you were insulting. This is the technique of those with deficient reasoning, and those who are imature.

Gunthr · « **Reply #3 on:** December 05, 2005, 07:15:39 PM »

The Dresden attack in WWII and Saddam's acts comitted on people in his country are dfferent.

Do you allude that they are the same thing?

This is actually a matter of history. I hope you are able to keep your mind more open for new information. I wish you the best in your career with the Navy.

Maverick · « **Reply #4 on:** December 05, 2005, 07:48:48 PM »

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Originally posted by VoiceOfThePast
When did torturing people (or firebombing them for that matter) become illegal? And if such a law exists, who enforces it?

Just like the Nazis, Saddam committed only one true Realpolitik crime, he lost the war.

That has to be one of the most stupid remarks I have seen on this BBS in a long time.

Obviously you lack quite a bit in your education.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2005, 07:49:14 PM »

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Originally posted by VoiceOfThePast
When did torturing people (or firebombing them for that matter) become illegal? And if such a law exists, who enforces it?

Just like the Nazis, Saddam committed only one true Realpolitik crime, he lost the war.

The first Geneva Convention was signed in 1864 to protect the sick and wounded in war time. This first Geneva Convention was inspired by Henri Dunant, founder of the Red Cross. Ever since then, the Red Cross has played an integral part in the drafting and enforcement of the Geneva Conventions.

These included the 1899 treaties, concerning asphyxiating gases and expanding bullets. In 1907, 13 separate treaties were signed, followed in 1925 by the Geneva Gas Protocol, which prohibited the use of poison gas and the practice of bacteriological warfare.

In 1929, two more Geneva Conventions dealt with the treatment of the wounded and prisoners of war. In 1949, four Geneva Conventions extended protections to those shipwrecked at sea and to civilians.

The Hague Convention on the Protection of Cultural Property was signed in 1954, the United Nations Convention on Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Techniques followed in 1977, together with two Additional Protocols to the Geneva Conventions of 1949, extending their protections to civil wars.

Generally, the winners of the conflict enforce the law.

Gunthr · « **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2005, 08:15:13 PM »

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When did torturing people (or firebombing them for that matter) become illegal? And if such a law exists, who enforces it?

Just like the Nazis, Saddam committed only one true Realpolitik crime, he lost the war.

Last edited by VoiceOfThePast on 12-06-2005 at 01:46 AM

You seem to engage in relativism. Its obvious you haven't lived much. And that you don't appreciate it. Or, you are dismayed by what has taken place in history. I sincerely hope that you learn the difference between right and wrong. My guess is that your mom and dad didn't do such a good job on loving you, or giving you much of their time.

Maverick · « **Reply #7 on:** December 05, 2005, 08:19:01 PM »

votp certainly seems like either a shade account or another person who was banned. Methinks it's simply a troll and a rather poor one at that.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #8 on:** December 05, 2005, 08:21:11 PM »

This is the stupedist argument ever. WHy don't you just say the holucost never happened and defend Hitler and Japan's aggression as "just needing extra recources"

US troops are not on trial here, we try our own AND HAVE MANY TIMES SO FAR IN THIS WAR. We follow law of armed conflict or face punishment for it.

Sadam comitted among others crimes of genocide and he is answering for them in a joke of a trial.

Russian · « **Reply #9 on:** December 05, 2005, 08:24:24 PM »

VoiceOfThePast,

Unfortunately, I agree with you.

Bodhi · « **Reply #10 on:** December 05, 2005, 08:33:14 PM »

I think shades accounts and their owners are flaming examples of homosexuality.

Furious · « **Reply #11 on:** December 05, 2005, 11:15:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
You seem to engage in relativism. Its obvious you haven't lived much. And that you don't appreciate it. Or, you are dismayed by what has taken place in history. I sincerely hope that you learn the difference between right and wrong. My guess is that your mom and dad didn't do such a good job on loving you, or giving you much of their time.

that is one masterfully crafted counter aurguement.

Yeager · « **Reply #12 on:** December 05, 2005, 11:32:03 PM »

I read through this thread but admit to being sort of lost.....

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 05, 2005, 11:36:31 PM »

Well so far, VoiceOfThePast made an excellent point.

And instead of proving him wrong, many people immediately jumped to insulting him and his character.

It's 2nd grade debate skills.

When you can't possibly win, insult his mother.

Torque · « **Reply #14 on:** December 06, 2005, 01:53:15 AM »

but of course tho during the 80's when saddam was at the apex of his genocidal campaign and overtly contravening the geneva convention, he was coddled by the neocons and complicity was the course of the day. this belated moral outrage only further exposes the hypocrisy and moral vacuum in which the neocons dwell.

having powel commiserate at halabja was ironic to say the least.