Author Topic: I changed my mind about IL2 (Read 1274 times)

Sunchaser · « **Reply #15 on:** December 31, 2001, 10:33:00 AM »

This train is gonna be late!

LePaul · « **Reply #16 on:** January 02, 2002, 02:33:00 PM »

Hi Sun, I know what you mean. I really enjoy the buff role too and the Main Arena with the Super Goons are kinda fizzling out my fun too.

I got IL-2 for Christmas and all my Squadmates are ga-ga with it. I'm wondering how well it will play on my P3 550/Voodoo 5500 or, if I should hang on until I breakdown and buy a new system.

funkedup · « **Reply #17 on:** January 02, 2002, 03:28:00 PM »

Well I tried some multiplayer and I'm not impressed. It's not at all in the same league as AH/WB etc. Lots of waiting, lots of warps, lots of bugs. A lot of hosts use no icons which is simply unplayable. Planes are just dots at ranges where you can make out details in real life. Maybe Soviet pilots had bad vision due to malnutrition?

There are some big FM problems too. The more I play, the more significant errors I find.

However I still like flying the planes around. The air AI in single player is borderline unplayable, but blowing up stuff on the ground is a blast. The ground units actually have battles with each other, and you have to make an ID pass some times just to make sure you don't bomb or strafe the wrong side.

Eye and ear candy counts for a LOT, so I'm still playing it. If have a fast machine and you don't have a copy, you should buy it.

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Udie · « **Reply #18 on:** January 02, 2002, 04:05:00 PM »

About stick calibrating.....

In game you can only calibrate your "flying" axis' ie. pitch, roll and yaw. This confused and pissed me off the first day until I realized that when you adjust the scaling, deadband and dampening ,from within the game, it makes the adjustments to what ever gear you have hooked up to your system and mapped to that function. I've tried this w/ 2 diferent joystick setups and it was the same for both.

With that said, I'm starting to get really disapointed in IL2. It was really good for the first 2 weeks I had it, but then the flaws start showing themselves. Can' hear when I'm getting shot and stuff like that. The worst part is the online play. This thing has been out for a month and already it's hacked. I've noticed it online several times, by getting 100 yrds on somebody's 6 and hit them with a 2 second burst of double 30mm wing gondola's and they simply pull a high yo-yo at 100 G's on my 6 and Im dead. All this with a 100 ping

I haven't hardly flown it since Christmas. Single player is ok and it looks neat, but AI sux compaired to any human oponent.

I'll put it up there with EAW for now, only the FM is way better than any boxed sim I've ever bought. So I guess you could say I too have changed my mind about IL2, only this time it's for the worse

Great potential, but not even close to the fun I've had in AH or WB or WW2 OL.

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Sunchaser · « **Reply #19 on:** January 02, 2002, 04:20:00 PM »

Hi funkedup, I saw you in hyperlobby the other day, how long did you stay?

I ask because I only saw you in one mission and was wondering if you have given online coop a fair shot.

If you think you have, no problem but I would like you to join me and some others in coop missions we run with Roger Wilco and see if we can change your mind.

And please specify the FM probs, your statement amounts to a simple bash in my opinion.

LePaul, I played it on a P3 500 with 192MB memory with the beta and it ran well but not perfect.
I have a V770 TNT2 with 32MB in that computer and have heard the VooDoo cards may not work as well but I guess you will only know if you try it.

I will fly with you anytime if you want to check it out on your machine.

ICQ is 48730960 or email at enthor@sbcglobal.net , let me know if and/or when you are ready.

oops, almost forgot.

and Udie, the sound, or lack thereof issue is supposed to be addressed in the next update....I hope.

Also, there is no hit bubble, want to shoot an aileron off ya gotta hit it.
I never shoot outside .30 and miss a lot, a real lot.

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funkedup · « **Reply #20 on:** January 02, 2002, 04:51:00 PM »

I will continue to give online play a try. I'll definitely try to hook up with you guys on HL. All the toys and gadgets are there to have good missions, so I'm sure it can happen.

The FM thing was not a bash. It's probably got no more FM errors than AH or WB. But after all the hype from beta guys on various boards I figured the FM would be a big step forward from current offerings. And it's not that. Those beta guys clearly didn't know what the hell they were talking about. If you want examples I can send them privately, I don't want to turn this into an FM bash thread.

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Udie · « **Reply #21 on:** January 02, 2002, 05:16:00 PM »

I should say that I have had good stable online play with it. Gadfly makes good coop missions hehe with out icons though

I'll go hang out in HL tonight....

Sundog · « **Reply #22 on:** January 02, 2002, 06:10:00 PM »

Hey guys,
I haven't been able to play it online yet, due to my network card, but I have to agree with Leonid about flying without icons. I set up a quick combat mission the other night (4 Fw-190s vs 4 P-39s, one of which I was in

-) and it was awesome! A couple of times I pulled onto aplanes six, then noticed it was a friendly. It really keeps you on your toes.

Also, using the instructions by Uberdemon to fly the AI planes, the the water plane has very realistic hydro-dynamic effects. It follows the various steps in the hulls during landing (i.e. as speed changes). Also, the I-153 M52 is an awesome stunt plane! I hope someone makes a cockpit for it soon. It performs great tail slides. It would also be cool if someone added a cockpit for the Hs-129 so we could play 'IL-2' from the other side (As opposed to the Fw-190/Me-109 rides).

~Caligula~ · « **Reply #23 on:** January 04, 2002, 12:40:00 AM »

Coop is a blast but You have to know who You fly with.There are some people that make excellent missions.I/JG3_Crunch for example is a master.You join a mission he host,You`re guarantied to have fun.Crop_Duster is another one who`s missions rock.

Btw check this out,I`ve never seen a tread like this

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715 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 04, 2002, 01:35:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Sundog:
Hey guys,
I haven't been able to play it online yet, due to my network card...

Try this: after connecting to the internet, and before running IL2, run il2setup.exe and on the Network tab make sure the proper IP address (ie the one for the internet, not for your local NIC LAN) is selected. Exit il2setup.exe and run IL2. Some people (including me) have found this fixes the problem of multiplayer with an installed NIC. Its worth a try.

Saintaw · « **Reply #25 on:** January 04, 2002, 02:00:00 AM »

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Originally posted by MANDOBLE:
I have a single question about IL2. Does it support multiple controlers at the same time like AH does?

That is, if you have more than one joy you select the joy and the axis for each axis the game uses.

Yes mando it does (got my copy yesterday) and to be honnest it's a pain in the neck...

AM using 2 CH fighterstick, 1 USB, the other attached to Analog pedals... there's no way to select WHAT joystick it will use properly. (yes yes yes... you CAN set the axis and buttons, but you can't control damping etc... if the joystick you're using is not Joystick #1).

Also, try to remap the View keys.... took me over 30 minutes (try to go "Oblique" with that little hat without hitting left/right or up/down...grrrrrr)

Haven't been far yet, in the campaign (playing the LW one, of course) and the only two planes I saw only flew straight (150-300 yds) in front of me, I kept shooting (1 min per plane) and they went down without ever doing an evasive...

WIll see later tonight what gives... but am not too impressed so far.