Russia practises offensive actions near Latvian and Estonian borders

[ATA]

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
The truth is you're brainwashed bunch of toads ready to conquer any peaceloving country that can't fight back.
 

Define peace loving,you mean country that do not support your way of living?

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Hey buddy.... don't start defaming toads. Toads had nothing to do with Borodas.

Rofl indeed sir. My apologies.

Define peace loving,you mean country that do not support your way of living?

With peaceloving I mean a country that maintains a defensive army instead of having 'legendary' armies with a history of invading smaller and defenseless countries.

For all you naysayers I strongly suggest a trip to Estonia, Latvia or Poland and have a chat with the locals. I mean locals too, not the russian population that mass immigrated there after they got annexed.

They will set things straight face to face. 100% guarantee.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
You make me vomit.. Youre sick in the head. Unfortunately there are still fools who think a peaceful coexistence with russia could ever be possible.

Nothing but peacefull coexistance with Russia is possible. There will be no hostile coexistance.

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
The truth is you're brainwashed bunch of toads ready to conquer any peaceloving country that can't fight back. I posted this thread to see Borodas response to 'peaceful' russian armed forces rehearsing offensive warfare next to other nations borders.

He got a hard-on from the thought. That tells it all.

Again, for "anti-communist crusaders" (who were once liberated from slavery and given 200% more rights that the main nation of the Empire): Look at the map. See Pskov. See how far it's from "Baltic" borders. There is a famous airborn division stationed in Pskov. They need to train. Who are you to prevent Russian troops from training on our own land, at the border of enemy beach-head aimed at SPb (Leningrad)? They have NATO bases in Estonia and Latvia, and both countries are near our borders, with NATO bombers 5 minutes of flight from SPb. Get the hell out of there first, then we'll think about our planned trainings, but we doubt we'll stop them anyway.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
So there are no neo-nazi groups anywhere in the free world? I never heard of any marches in Riga nor should I care. Borodas statement was not about a certain march. It was a direct and hostile slanderous remark on the general population. What it did do was reveal his real standing.

 MrRiplEy[H], Latvian SS "veterans" get state pensions and are officially national heros. People who dressed as concentration-camp prisoners and protested against their march this year got arrested.

Official Latvian history calls Salaspils concentration camp, where 450000 people were killed, an "educational labour facility".

Over 2/3 of the Latvian population speaks other languages the Latvian (mostly Russian), and they ban Russian schools there, directly violating European laws. They host Chechen representatives and perfofm other hostile actions now, backed up by NATO forces.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

So in essence you don't deny they were rehearsing offensive actions and the rehearsal was aimed directly against the baltic nations.

That's all I wanted to know really, thanks.

And allthough that progress in Latvia is all news to me, that hardly validates any kind of an attack on a sovereign nation.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
So in essence you don't deny they were rehearsing offensive actions and the rehearsal was aimed directly against the baltic nations.

That's all I wanted to know really, thanks.

_I_ personally heard about this trainings from your post. I don't know anything else about it, only suggested a most probable explaination.

Building up forces between SPb and NATO members is a reasonable thing, and I 100% support it. I hope that there is a plan of a massive strike against aggressors to prevent them from using bases in "Balitc states" against Leningrad. Silly bastards don't understand that they are nothing more then a disposable material for their new masters in case of a new war. And I am 100% sure that people here will never support any usage of force outside of Russian borders.

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
And allthough that progress in Latvia is all news to me, that hardly validates any kind of an attack on a sovereign nation.

Sorry for being too pathetic. I hope that Europe can get rid of this nazi pests using purely economical ways. As all former Sovier republics except Russia, Belorussia and Kazakhstan - this lomitrophs are bankrupt from the very beginning, they are nothing outside of the USSR that invested billions into their economics, so they can be easily strangled. The problem is that they are nessessary for NATO as a beach-head against North-West Russia.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I thought only recently Russia was having talks about joining Nato on some level. You seem to see it as your enemy however. How come?

[Hangtime]

What I find staggering is the concept of attacking/invading Russia.

What on earth for??

In order to garner an attack from the western nations, Russia would have to strike first... what could possibly be a motive for such a strike?

Second.. invasion?  By the west? laughable. Total destruction in response to a strike or invasion on the Baltic States? Sure.. I could see western europe immolating Moscow in retaliation.. but an invasion?

Hell, invade WHAT? It'd be like 'invading and occupying brooklyn'. Who the hell would wanna do that?

Russians are incredibly paranoid, STILL it seems. The concept that anybody would ever wanna live in or 'occupy' the dump is truely laughable..

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Russians are incredibly paranoid, STILL it seems. The concept that anybody would ever wanna live in or 'occupy' the dump is truely laughable..

Hang, we get invaded from the West every 50-100 years, sometimes more often, in last 1000 years. Isn't it a reason to be a little paranoid? We had invaders in Moscow in 1612 and 1812, we had Germans in Caucasus in 1918, we had nazis on Volga in 1942. Now we have enemy forces 40km from SPb, they come closer then ever before in our history.

Now please tell me why the hell you keep moving Eastwards when we removed our forces from Europe?

What I find absolutely idiotic is a thought that USSR/Russia wants to invade US. Damn, we sleep and dream about it, we even make floating tanks to cross the ocean! It's "blue" side at our borders, not "red" side threatening the US. All we want is to be left alone, and please, don't teach us how we should live. We live here for 1500 years, and we are doing quite fine, at least when noone comes and burns all we have to the ground. I think it's simple.

[Furball]

poor oppressed peace loving russians

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Furball
poor oppressed peace loving russians

Please tell me how many times UK invaded Russia and how many times Russia invaded UK.

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by Boroda
Hang, we get invaded from the West every 50-100 years, sometimes more often, in last 1000 years. Isn't it a reason to be a little paranoid? We had invaders in Moscow in 1612 and 1812, we had Germans in Caucasus in 1918, we had nazis on Volga in 1942. Now we have enemy forces 40km from SPb, they come closer then ever before in our history.

Now please tell me why the hell you keep moving Eastwards when we removed our forces from Europe?

What I find absolutely idiotic is a thought that USSR/Russia wants to invade US. Damn, we sleep and dream about it, we even make floating tanks to cross the ocean! It's "blue" side at our borders, not "red" side threatening the US. All we want is to be left alone, and please, don't teach us how we should live. We live here for 1500 years, and we are doing quite fine, at least when noone comes and burns all we have to the ground. I think it's simple.

I think yer a buncha backwards paranoid cave-dwellers resentful of being forced by shame to live in mud huts. There's not a damn thing that Russia has that the west would be willing to invade you for. This is 2005, there are no hitlers or stalins or napoleons in europe that would give yer backwards drunken criminal empire a second thought.. Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia and Finland hate yer guts and would revel in an opportunity to kick some Russian tulips with NATO backing... but there will be no western invasion or occupation of yer hovels. Like I said, why bother?

You see, the west just regards you as a buncha relics from a dead failed and bankrupt empire... most of us pity your citizens, forced to bear first the yoke of communist atrocities, now the burden of corrupt former communist party apparatchiks. We do not fear you.. as an anaology, we'd rather not be the ones that have to shoot the mad dog behind the fence, only because we're not really interested in digging the hole necessary to bury it. As long as you commie salamanders stay on your side of the cage, we'll leave you alone.  

[Boroda]

True specialist in Eastern-European history.

Hang, did commies eat your grandma?

Tell me why did we suffer all that invasions? Did nazis come to save Jews from "pogroms" (see another thread)?

[Toad]

Originally posted by Boroda
Official Latvian history calls Salaspils concentration camp, where 450000 people were killed, an "educational labour facility".
 

From what country could they have possibly learned THAT technique?

[Estel]

Originally posted by Toad
From what country could they have possibly learned THAT technique?

From Nazi Germany. And with their support.