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RASTER · « **on:** April 15, 2001, 12:28:00 PM »

I was reading this interesting thread by 'your customer' and wanted to relate my views but found it locked. How very Chinese.

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WW2 Online has been developing their game for over TWO YEARS now, and all that we have seen from them is a beta in which we had a choice of a very few aircraft, some tanks, and a ground soldier.

That's a very valid point and from the day of the NC move, one that has concerned me! Why? Because (censor) (censor) and that was the reason.

Most of us realized that what Mo was trying to do was a big big job using the PC power available at the time. Conceptually Mo was on target but technically it was considered to large a leap to recover the investment unless he could find some help somehow. At the time I remember suggesting the use of independent developers to help construct some of the models. As you may know there are some 40000 independently produced files at Flightsim.com of planes for MSFS and this concept was just introduced by 'Targetware'.
However, at the time a took a verbal lashing by this thick community that Mo didn't need any help. So ok, no help offered. However, I want to add the posts so that we can all remember what we said about it at the time.

RASTER

Yes, this game has the best idea's I have ever seen. Unfortunately, your
graphics make my visual cortex sick to die. Listen dumbo's, there are 100's
if not 1000's of free lance modelers in ever field who would do better work
for Free! Yer just killen yourself by not let'n them help.

Raster, say's he couldn't care less.

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MEKOSQ
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posted 02-10-2000 08:16 PM

hehehehe.

This thread should be fun to watch. I'll leave this one to the pros.

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busboy
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posted 02-10-2000 08:22 PM

2 words:

"beta graphics"

other than that, I'll leave it to FT and his crew

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Baxter
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posted 02-10-2000 08:24 PM

I would try to explain what alpha stage means, but Raster you're such an
idiot that I won't even bother. Go play Pong or something, the graphics on
that game are awesome, you'll enjoy it

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Sixxo
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posted 02-10-2000 08:27 PM

a) They've got some of the best modellers in the field, who've got an
education and degrees to prove it. They aren't fresh off the high school
art class boat, they are hardended veterans.

b) How many 5000-polygon models do you expect your computer to handle
on-screen at one time? Uh-huh. Now factor in bandwidth. Good. Now
factor in the terrain. And now factor in download time. Very good.

Learn something new every day. Well, most of the time.

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sixxo@hq.wwiionline.com
Staff, World War 2 Online HQ
Acting Commanding Officer, 506th PIR, 101st Airborne Division

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Rebel
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posted 02-10-2000 08:35 PM

*pulls out the lawn chair and kicks open the cooler, fishin' out a beer.
Throws one to Sixxo*

Very nice, sir! Educative, yet somehow able to give this moron some toejam!

This oughta be fun!

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"With a rebel yell!"

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Raster
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posted 02-10-2000 08:54 PM

What a surprise, the voice from a generation which is an ongoing
experiment. You just check into life? ... Don't want to listen to groupies
just off a pokemon fix. Post no more excuses about beta and the skills
required. What are you one of the three monkeys, "see no evil". Graphics
are wonderful..can I have a kiss. Don't want help...hey...don't get help.

Raster..

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Sixxo
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posted 02-10-2000 09:00 PM

Are you "offering your services" in some sort of pseudo-passive way? "Hire
me now, I'll make your game way better?"

This is more hilarious than organized cult religions.

Please explain to us your knowledge of how a massively-multiplayer player
game handles objects, your knowledge of networking, your knowledge of
level of detail (factored into distance), and your knowledge of the proper
way to get a job at a respected company as a respected individual.

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sixxo@hq.wwiionline.com
Staff, World War 2 Online HQ
Acting Commanding Officer, 506th PIR, 101st Airborne Division

[This message has been edited by Sixxo (edited 02-10-2000).]

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Baal
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posted 02-10-2000 10:09 PM

Oh God, Raster has found WWIIOL. Either Killla or a Killla wanna-be. Hey
Rats, it's time to scrap the flat rate pricing and announce $20/hour play so
he'll go away.

B

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jeep
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posted 02-10-2000 11:58 PM

I'm not gonna waste much thought on his thread so I'll just say this:

Try-Hard

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Yak
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posted 02-11-2000 12:58 AM

Don't even bother trying to use logic or common sense or even civility with
Raster. This guy was on the WBs boards for a bit, and he managed to piss
off a lot of genuinely well-meaning folks.

Good news is, he *will* go away once WWII online goes pay. Of course,
he'll probably yell and scream about how the rats "promised" to have it free
for all eternity, and now they Commerce Department is going to have to
investigate them, blah blah blah.

Yak

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Modus
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posted 02-11-2000 01:32 AM

In the words of Blade:

"Some motha-f*ckas are always trying to ice-skate up hill."

I think this guy gets the coveted "banana of the Week" award!

Congratulations!

*Mod' sighs, then grumbles:

"...this is ri-god-damned-diculous..."

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Andre The
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posted 02-11-2000 01:35 AM

Whoo Hoo! banana of the Week!

Hansjurgen Totmann

2nd SS Panzer Division "Das Reich"

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Raster
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posted 02-11-2000 04:16 AM

Damn you guys disable a good time. I was gona try to stick to the topic
this time. Gona be a big surprise when you guys find out yal had the same
mother. Ooops, So I downed ya in the B17 to often maybe..can't fly, get
outa the sky. Get over it. Buy a joystick.

RASTER...hehehe, you clowns is getting better.

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LooseCannon
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posted 02-11-2000 04:44 AM

Come back Woody and Truck, all is forgiven.

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weasel
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posted 02-11-2000 09:05 AM

Pokemon! Gotta catch em all!

And I need mega dino zord power.. NOW!

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Wanted: Multiple jobs for SWM w/Opel. Have access to guns, butter.

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Wraith
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posted 02-11-2000 09:12 AM

Arrrrr modus m8, u promised I could have that banana of the week
award. U promised!!!

Im having the award commerce department investigate u......

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Sixxo
Member
posted 02-11-2000 11:40 AM

Wait, Raster, I don't get it - where did flying a B-17 come from? Is that
your release? For your shortcomings in the real world, you pretend you
have skills in an online game?

*flashback to Quake*

Save your food stamps, friend.

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sixxo@hq.wwiionline.com
Staff, World War 2 Online HQ
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Chad Rogers
Member
posted 02-11-2000 12:01 PM

Here are a couple of thing s Raster
1. You don't have to play WWIIonline, us stuck in the dark ages idiots with
suffer with it while you play other games, poor us.

2. Next time you want attention just kick your dog, he'll yelp right away.
You won't have to check back to see if anyone posted to make yourself
happy.

I think that's enough for now.

Chad
*poor idiot who doesn't know any better.

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-GNNR-
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posted 02-11-2000 12:12 PM

*slides back further into a comfortable chair and cracks open a Red
Stripe...*

ROFLMAO... the flames will be hot in here.

And I need a sitrep here, Raster is exactly whom? I know raster graphics
date back to Battlezone, so does that mean that Raster wants some Pika
Pika power raster lines in the game?

Cool by me, I loved Red Baron!

Sick'em CR, bite him on the tush till he squeels like a stuck southern pig
from a bad movie... YEEEHAAA.

*coughs* and on a lighter note, We used to have this "Dildo of the Week"
award in my old fraternity (eons ago)... so banana it is...

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3rd Panzers, Angriff-Brigaden Berlin
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Wraith
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posted 02-11-2000 02:03 PM

Just checking, you are all aware wha a banana is right?

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easymo · « **Reply #1 on:** April 15, 2001, 02:08:00 PM »

The boys at HTC have the amazing ability to build a sim, while you are playing it. This must the equivalent of working on a car while someone drives it down the road. The last couple of patch's prove it is not done without pitfalls. But somehow they always manage to pull it out. This is a trick that has alluded other sim developers IMO.

Kieran · « **Reply #2 on:** April 15, 2001, 03:15:00 PM »

Whew!

Tried really hard to find the point of your post, and I must say, like the originator of the locked thread, you seem to lack a cohesive point.

So WWIIOnline may be vaporware.
So you were outright rejected in your suggestion to utilize player-generated graphics.
So you posted several excerpts of CR BBS banter for us to read.

Question: What are we supposed to do with this information? I can easily see why this thread or any like it would be locked- the only thing that can happen is either we start knocking on CR or knocking on you, and neither is going to be very productive, is it?

Not a flame, but I am a little confused as to what kind of response you are wanting...

Dinger · « **Reply #3 on:** April 15, 2001, 03:25:00 PM »

Guess what, when you start a thread by insulting the works of others, and by calling those people names, they don't seem very responsive to your ideas. Yeah, your "interesting views" are very constructive.
Next time you eat at a place and they tell you they don't take credit cards, why not say to the owner, "Hey amazinhunk, 90 percent of Americans have credit cards! We should at least be able to charge this gut-wrenching slop!"
BTW plurals do not take apostrophes.

RASTER · « **Reply #4 on:** April 15, 2001, 06:40:00 PM »

I agree 'easymo'

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The boys at HTC have the amazing ability to build a sim, while you are playing it.

Mr. Daddink has somehow been able to program a complete online game in a remarkably short time. Considering it is not just programming but research as well as advanced mathematics, his teachers need to be praised. Did the USA land on the moon, did HT create ACE's High?

Kieran I read you have made 100's of posts

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Tried really hard to find the point of your post, and I must say, like the originator of the locked thread, you seem to lack a cohesive point.

I easily understood the orinators post, perhaps you could start listening more and writting less. It's that simple.

Dinger..

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"Hey amazinhunk, 90 percent of Americans have credit cards!

Firstly watch your language. Secondly, I stand corrected on my writting error. Thirdly, at the time I thought the only way to get attention was to stimulate the lower part of the brain. I wanted WW2online to be a success and when I saw the graphics I could have cried. With outside help working for free the sim would be finished sooner and better. Most sim developers are allowing the users to do terrain/and skins now. Why not get involved at the beginning, bring the costs down, the quality up and the schedual forward. Time will prove me right.

RASTER

Kieran · « **Reply #5 on:** April 15, 2001, 07:02:00 PM »

Well, well, well...

Read the number next to my name. It now reads "170". Hundreds of posts? Not on this nick.

What specifically are you wanting us to do about your perceived problem with WWIIOnline? Why is this brought here? Even if everyone agrees with you, how does that change a thing at CR? How professional is it of HTC to allow you space to rail against a competitor? See what I mean? You even manage to start this thread with a racial slur- and according to the TOS (assuming you fly AH) that is enough to get you in some hot water.

My post was intended to ask you what you expected of people here. So, what do you expect of people here?

AKSeaWulfe · « **Reply #6 on:** April 15, 2001, 07:22:00 PM »

A swift kick to RASTER's bellybutton should send him on his way.
-SW

AKSeaWulfe · « **Reply #7 on:** April 15, 2001, 07:37:00 PM »

Oh and Kieran, in order to get a better perspective on this guy here's a post I dug up that he posted on saturday....

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I've been away from AH for a long time. When I digup a faster PC I'll be back. However, there is such a thing as being overly sensitive and I friggen hate the cheats which are everywhere. As such, it can get very frustrating to sort the really god like from the code altered opportunists and after a few years there is no way to prevent eventually loosing it on an open channel.
However, I am unsure what Nuttz is on about, but it does seem like the younger players are having a laugh at civility and I would like to remove all the under 18's from the game.
My point about underage players and overly sensitive squelchers begins with my getting this Email from WB's
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Dear Warbirds Player:
iEN is committed to the Warbirds community. Part of what makes Warbirds so
great is the community spirit. Given the fact that it's a combat
simulation, sometimes tensions run high.

I've had complaints that you've been abusive to another player in the arena.
Including some inappropriate remarks to his 12 year old niece. This is
unacceptable. Everyone is welcome to play in the arena to relieve some
stress and relax. That becomes impossible when others are verbally abusing
them. This behaviour violates the TOS contained in your Policies and
Conduct.txt (located in your Warbirds folder). If it continues, I will lock
your account.

Please remember while you are in the arena that this is a family game.

Kent W. East Jr.
iEN Community Events Manager

If you ask me, this fella is a few beers shy of a 12 pack, 20 cards short of a playing with a full deck, 8 cigarettes short of a pack, etc...

-SW

Sandman_SBM · « **Reply #8 on:** April 15, 2001, 08:03:00 PM »

I read... and re-read... and read Raster's repost again and again and again...

Wow... Now I see... Boy... gee Wally... the folks at WWIIOnline sure made a mistake not taking Raster's advice. Mr. Sixxo thinks he's so smart. I wonder if those guys at HiTech Creations could use some help?

Raster... dude... You started off by insulting their work and then insulted their management skills. Not at all surprised that Sixxo's response was, "Talk to the hand."

Opinions are like amazinhunks. Everyone has one and some of 'em stink. If you recall, WWIIOnline has a entire stable of beta testers. I'm sure that Sixxo has absolutely no patience for unsolicited advice nor recommendations.

SOB · « **Reply #9 on:** April 15, 2001, 08:55:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Dinger:
Next time you eat at a place and they tell you they don't take credit cards, why not say to the owner, "Hey amazinhunk, 90 percent of Americans have credit cards! We should at least be able to charge this gut-wrenching slop!"

Actually, if it's a place I've never been and I don't see the VISA/MC sign, I ask 'em. If the answer is "no, we don't take CC", my responce is generally to just turn around and walk out...regardless of the amount of cash I have in my pocket.

SOB

Dinger · « **Reply #10 on:** April 15, 2001, 09:07:00 PM »

For me it depends: if the prices (for the quality of service) are really cheap, then I'll recognize they're passing along the 5 percent savings to me, and I'll be willing to give it a shot. If it's pretentious up the butt, or waaayyy to cheap, I'll just keep moseyin', thank you. No sense adding to someone's margarine- or perrier-coated profit margine.

RASTER · « **Reply #11 on:** April 16, 2001, 12:04:00 AM »

Yes it could be read as a racial slur if you have a reading comprehension problem keiren.

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You even manage to start this thread with a racial slur- and according to the TOS(assuming you fly AH) that is enough to get you in some hot water.

Perhaps the reason you can't and will not allow "your customer" to make their point is because you are reading in things that clearly are not there.

And, Keiren you should open your eyes? Last I looked in the general posts "Kawasaki Ki-61-I ?" you made two posts there both at 171 count and again everywhere else.

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Read the number next to my name. It now reads "170". Hundreds of posts? Not on this nick.

If your counter is hacked not to count how can I know how many posts you made and I am correct, hundred's is how many posts you have made you dumbo.

However, TOS or no TOS AKseawulfe made a threat of physical violence..gee whiz monkeys loose

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A swift kick to RASTER's bellybutton should send him on his way.
-SW

and you quote me akseawulfe you wana try it girly man.

My point, this was "your customer's" post. I wanted to see if it was truely a dead issue and this is the O'Club. I don't know who 'your customer' is, but to enflame an angry post by a lock is just plane stupid when you have no idea in hell who the person was.

RASTER

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NUTTZ · « **Reply #12 on:** April 16, 2001, 12:27:00 AM »

I understand what Raster is trying to say, he's got a weird way of saying it but I would have to agree with him, although i don't agree with his tactical way of saying it.

In a nutshell...
AW: would of been gone YEARS ago if not for SAC, SAC breathed new life into AW for years.

WWiionline: 'Beta" shots are just terrible. I never said this on ANY board because they are beta and I have no clue what the final product will look like. BUT, 2 years of waiting gets people angry and the longer they wait the more they expect. I ( and when i say I, that just my oppinion) think people will be disappointed in the graphics. Although I still wait for it eagerly.

AH: well everyone knows where i stand with this.

NUTTZ

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #13 on:** April 16, 2001, 12:51:00 AM »

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Yes it could be read as a racial slur if you have a reading comprehension problem keiren.

Assigning a racial name to an action you don't like is a racial slur. Kieran is not making that up. You seem to be oblivious to your own offenses.

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And, Keiren you should open your eyes? Last I looked in the general posts "Kawasaki Ki-61-I ?" you made two posts there both at 171 count and again everywhere else.

And if you look at your posts, you'll see that they all say the same number too. UBB re-builds this page every time you view it. In doing so, it assigns your current number of posts.

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If your counter is hacked not to count how can I know how many posts you made and I am correct, hundred's is how many posts you have made you dumbo.

I bet you don't have a single mirror in your house. If you did, you'd be able to see that these accusations are more self descriptive than anything else.

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However, TOS or no TOS AKseawulfe made a threat of physical

LOL! He didn't threaten you. He suggested a cure for your problem. I don't believe he said "I am going to kick your ass". Talk about reading into someone's post.

BTW.. I think SW was right on the mark with what is needed here.

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and you quote me akseawulfe you wana try it girly man.

Ah.. the anonymoty of the web is such a beautiful thing. You can act all tough without having to back any of it up. You go raster you tough guy you! You keep saying this stuff long enough and you'll actually start believing it yourself.

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My point, this was "your customer's" post. I wanted to see if it was truely a dead issue and this is the O'Club. I don't know who 'your customer' is, but to enflame an angry post by a lock is just plane stupid when you have no idea in hell who the person was.

I don't believe that thread was locked in the O'Club.. much like this one hasn't been. It was locked in the General Forum because that is for discussions about ACES HIGH.. you know... the game.

My favorite part is where you seem to think that us not knowing who it is has any relevance in the situation. As a matter of fact, the anonymoty speaks for itself. Cowards post that kind of drivel under psuedonyms. The lock, however, would have occured regardless. It was intentionally inflamatory and in no way shape or form related to Aces High.

And with that, I'll let you get back to your regularly scheduled insult festival.

AKDejaVu

RASTER · « **Reply #14 on:** April 16, 2001, 01:15:00 AM »

AKDejaVU, Well I read it again and I see no action assigned. However, lets assign the parameters and say what I would defend with arms I would defend with my mouth. There will be no appology. Any pilot has the right to fly in international airspace regardless if they are dropping leaflets near Cuba or wetting down the side of the plane with Mr.Private within sight of offshore cameras. IF China wants to censor the truth and come out bluntly with absolute nonesense about an encounter they had with the USA..then I am gona add my 2 cents that their policies are friggen laughable to the point of being dangerous. Unfortunately your political correctioness is probably more likely cowardice. But your point about the counter is correct and I apologize due to UBB crap.

RASTER

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