Author Topic: Remington 700! (Read 1406 times)

Hangtime · « **Reply #15 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:35:13 AM »

NRA leadership has a history of rewarding gun makers for gun treason. For example, thanks to the "Winning" Team, few activists are aware that S&W's collaboration with the enemy pales in comparison to that of Bill Ruger, father of 10-round magazine limits and the anti-"assault weapon" movement. While the Roos-Roberti assault weapon ban loomed in California, Ruger appeased the victim disarmers by pushing to ban large magazines. Meanwhile, he lobbied to keep his Mini-14 off the ban list, arguing that it was a sporting gun, not one of those evil assault weapons. NRA reinforced his sellout by opposing the ban on the grounds that it included too many "legitimate" sporting guns, naming some rifles that should be exempted.

Ruger won't get my money for any new firearm.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:38:53 AM »

M1As are fun and you can buy them in Cali.

I would go with a .308 myself if I were going to get a 700.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #17 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:40:51 AM »

I'm thinking of going with a scope, and 308 seems to be the caliber.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:45:35 AM »

If it were me, and I had money (I have 10 dollars that need to purchase 200 dollars worth of stuff by the end of the week), I would go .30-06. Just because it's classic and I can switch the ammo in and out of my Garands and 1903's.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:58:17 AM »

Who you planing on buying from? When I checked reads prices on M1As they were about 50 bucks more for the same rifle as target masters.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #20 on:** February 09, 2006, 11:04:57 AM »

I'm not sure yet GTO, it's still a few months away since I just spend a bunch on my car for new tires and high milage service and i dont like to make too many big purcases at once.

fartwinkle · « **Reply #21 on:** February 09, 2006, 12:13:02 PM »

Depending what you are gonna hunt i would pick the 223 cal.
accurate as stink and cheaper to shoot-reload and will take most varmits 80lbs and below with ease.

Group i shot yesterday at 100yds 20mph crosswind.
Rifle savage 12fv 223 cal.
Ammo hand loads 26.0 grn of H335 powder fed 205 pimers and sierra 52grn matchkings

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Reschke · « **Reply #22 on:** February 09, 2006, 04:05:09 PM »

Whatever you do with the Remington DO NOT GET AN ADL VERSION. I have owned a Model 700 .30-06 for many years now long before you had the ADL, BDL and CDL version. My 700 is what is now known as the CDL version and its absolutely dead on at 300 yds plus but I also have a Swarovski 3x9x36.

The ADL version of the Model 700 is not manufactured to the same standard as the BDL and CDL versions. Sure it shoots fine and is even accurate but having shot and sold several of them they are also the ones with the highest defect rate in that family. I would like to get another one in either .308 or .270 to go along with my .30-06.

ClevMan · « **Reply #23 on:** February 09, 2006, 06:09:01 PM »

I have a BDL in 30-06 caliber... Fine rifle, but for the relatively same cost, I purchased a Browning A-Bolt in the 7MM Rem. Mag. WOW, what a difference... I love my 700, but the Browning has a 60 degree throw on the bolt, so you don't bang your hand against the scope every time you rack one in.

If you do decide on a 700, my suggestion is to get one that is designated as a DM (Detachable Magazine). Some 700's, like mine, have a spring that holds the mag in place, but when it is released, the bullets go everywhere... So, the DM was brought about (which was a design taken from the stock Browning A-Bolt).

As far as the caliber you go, EVERYBODY has an opinion... If you are hunting over open field, a flat trajectory bullet like .308 is outstanding (when my dad was a sniper for our local sheriff's dept., he used a 700 BDL with a necked-down .308 because it was so flat shooting, plus it had good penetration). The problem with the .308 is that if you hunt in cover, the slightest nick of a bush, cattail, etc. will knock the bullet off line.

If you will be hunting in timber, brush, etc., the 7MM Rem. Mag (outfitted with a BOSS so as not the blow you against the tree) would be a good idea. I've personally shot up to 400 yds. in Kansas with the 7 Mag, and it has always been good to me.

If you go to Winchester's website, you can view the ballistics on all calibers and see what their muzzle velocity, drop compensation, etc is. That will help you decide on the caliber that is right for you. A .308 or 7 Mag or .270 would most likely be the most beneficial... Good luck.

Just my $.02, although it's more like a dollar LOL

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=001B&cat_id=035&type_id=008

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=001B&cat_id=035&type_id=002

Hornet33 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 09, 2006, 07:36:29 PM »

Have a 700BDL in .308, Leopold 3X9 power scope and this thing shoots!!!! I have yet to miss anything I have shot at. It hits everytime on target. I love mine.

Mini D · « **Reply #25 on:** February 09, 2006, 07:50:34 PM »

I have a model 700P in .308. I've put 5 bullets through the same hole at 200 yards. Then I have a model 700 sendero SF (stainless fluted) in 7mm STW that I don't particularly care for. The accuracy has suffered a bit on that one. Only 1" groups at 200 with it.

fartwinkle · « **Reply #26 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:04:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
I have a model 700P in .308. I've put 5 bullets through the same hole at 200 yards.

Mini D · « **Reply #27 on:** February 09, 2006, 11:32:13 PM »

Disbelief? It's not that difficult off of a bench with a decent scope and decent rounds. The rifle is nasty accurate.

Morpheus · « **Reply #28 on:** February 09, 2006, 11:54:46 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Ok, I think I'm getting me a rifle and I like this general family.

Can any of you guys tell me about this one?

Currently I'm looking just at shooting targets, but since I'm buying a rifle I might as well make it one that can be used for hunting if I decide to go that way at some point.

The 700 comes in all sorts of calibers and models, can you point me to anything more specific?

Or suggest other choices.

Please remember I live in Cali so nothing really fun is allowed.

You sound like alot of the customers that come into my familys stores. How much target shooting are you going to do? If its alot, then go for a 243. If its going to be 50/50 target shooting/hunting then look at either a 308 or an '06. If you're going to use it just as a deer rifle then a 243 will do fine, anything bigger than deer and you are really stretching the limits of what the 243 can do. If you dont mind a little recoil then to hell with the debate and go with either a 308 or an '06. The 308 and 06 has killed everything on the planet, if you're looking for an all-round rifle to both target shoot and hunt with, those are the two calibers to stick close to.

Its really up to you and what you're comfortable shooting. If you're going to hate shooting it, you're not going to shoot it well. It sounds like this is going to be your first rifle. If that's the case then a 243 isn't a bad choice at all. In fact, its a very good choice. Assuming that's the case. I have several 700's and they shoot very well. My favorite 700, is a classic in 35 Whalen. I've taken everything from deer, elk, to prong horn with it, dozens of Squirrels too... which were just targets of op. I love it. But I'll always like single shots better than all the rest. Yep, the No 1's and No 3's Suave, dem's is sweet rifles. I bet you'd like the one I am in the process of building.

fartwinkle · « **Reply #29 on:** February 10, 2006, 12:42:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Disbelief? It's not that difficult off of a bench with a decent scope and decent rounds. The rifle is nasty accurate.

In 40 years of shooting and the last 20 competitive shooting I have never seen anyone including national champions put five rounds thru the same hole at 200 yds.

Heck I aint never seen it done at 100yards.
because what you discribed would be called 0 MOA > minute of angle.
Now it is possible that five rounds could be all touching each other as then it would be more 1/4 MOA.

To put it simple the US Army's M24 sniper rifle does 1/2 inch MOA and thats with
highly trained shooters .

MOA is just slightly over 1 inch at 100 yards and is usually rounded off to 1 inch.a MOA group is usually considered to be 1 inch center to center of the widest holes.MOA is also relative to distance.
1MOA = 1 inch at 100 yds.
= 2 inch at 200 yds.
= 3 inch at 300 yds.
= 10 inch at 1000 yds.

Now some of those bench rest shooters get some really great groupings but even them cats cant single hole it and they shooting $15.000.00 guns.

Not to call your claim BS so dont take it the wrong way but I would love to see a pic of that target;)