Author Topic: EZmode bombsight (Read 2778 times)

Pooface · « **on:** February 21, 2006, 05:42:08 AM »

over the past 8 or 9 months i have noticed the general skill level fall terribly in the MA. and a lot of this terrible skill is linked to the fact it is no longer needed. i really wish that the auto bombsight calibration would be turned off in all arenas. it takes 2 minutes, and in my mind, it could bring back more coordinated attacks, better bombing runs, more teamwork, and more exciting gameplay. right now it is very gamey, and although yes, this is a game, just holding y for a few seconds is a little stupid.

i really think this could help the community and the arena, just by disabling the auto calibration. so please HT, is it possible??

what does everyone else think?

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2006, 06:07:35 AM »

those who bomb properly will have no trouble using the old method or the ez mode with pinpoint accuracy. You wernt around when the old method was in use, but i can tell you it was just as simple.

every other tard will still dive bomb from 2k whatever the bomb calib setup is.

no point changing anything, imo.

Simaril · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2006, 06:09:56 AM »

Poo --

I think its important to realize that while some buffers are exoerienced players who like to bomb, many are not yet competitive in fighters. Being able to buff easily makes them more likely to stay in the game.

THAT means that when they move up the learning curve and start succeeding a bit in fighters, they also have a supply of relatively easy-to-hit buff targets for those times they're getting waxed by the vets in fighters.

I'd say leave it as is. I know I found the calibration routine pretty simple, and for anyone who's a gamer its no big deal. But, it did seem to make a difference for many others.

Pooface · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2006, 07:30:40 AM »

i dunno. the thing is, we get a lot of people complaining about bombers being too easy, and they are really. its not like the normal bombsight is any harder than the EZmode one, it just takes a little more experience, and that i think would help.

and bat, i know they used to have it off, and back then there wasnt nearly so much of the dweebery in the MA was there?? i just think it would bring back a little patience, and people would play a little more realistically.

i mean, if people are unsure about it maybe we could test it for a week. i just think that, its a feature in the game, why dont we use it? it'll make the gameplay more realistic and well, if that needs no extra programming from HT, why not use it is my point.

Simaril · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2006, 07:37:35 AM »

The guy who makes the decisions HAS tried it, for an extended period. HT's decided that the game and the business were better the way it is now.

Pooface · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2006, 07:50:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Simaril
The guy who makes the decisions HAS tried it, for an extended period. HT's decided that the game and the business were better the way it is now.

i guess.im just trying to come up with a solution. the community and sense of friendship has been watered down by people who come in and just want to kill, not to have fun fighting, but to get kills and land them, and get lots of 'wtg's from a bunch of noobs because it makes them feel like they are a l33t pileit. the problem is that so many of them have no interest in learning to fly well, they just want to know what will get them the most kills. thats what we need to change before everyone just leaves and all that's left is a load of preteens playing airquake. im just trying to think of a way to build up the skill level of the game:confused: i wish there was a sigh smiley. any of you guys understand what i mean?

jaxxo · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2006, 07:55:02 AM »

point is u have to learn! it does take awhile to do it properly..and no its not as simple when u have to recal with ftrs on you, pressing y for 3 secs is a whole lot easier...but like you said we dont want to scare away the newbs:rolleyes: god forbid they take time in the ta or get someone to teach them. heres an idea... take away blackouts, redouts, stalls, spins, and everything else u need to learn to adjust to. The funnest part of the game is that you learn everyday..easy mode bombsite is a joke as are divebombing buffs who punch out after nuking a ftr hangar.

Pooface · « **Reply #7 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:08:04 AM »

yeah. i mean, its not easy going into the depths and ideas behind the game is it ? lol

but right now, as it is, it is not working as well as it should. im just trying to put out ideas.

randomguy · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:41:27 AM »

what auto bomb calibtration is this you speak off??

I need some practise in my bombing runs....

can this help me, if so, how can it be done ?

Pooface · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:43:41 AM »

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Originally posted by randomguy
what auto bomb calibtration is this you speak off??

I need some practise in my bombing runs....

can this help me, if so, how can it be done ?

its already on. i would like it turned off, so that it's harder to bomb

basically, as it is now, you just hold y down and it does it for you. it used to be that you needed to have skill to drop bombs right. now anyone can do it

FiLtH · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:46:19 AM »

I like the old way in the AvA, but I dont think its a good idea for the MA.This game is hard enough to learn for new guys, without making 10 missions in a row and totally missing the target each time. Then they'd jump in La7s or spixteens.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:49:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Pooface
yeah. i mean, its not easy going into the depths and ideas behind the game is it ? lol

but right now, as it is, it is not working as well as it should. im just trying to put out ideas.

This must be rag on Bomber month or something.
I don`t get all the complaints. What are the bombers doing all of a sudden that has everybody so stirred up that hasn`t been going on for as long as I remember? I mean, I know that the "30 or mo or we don`t go" squad hordes are taking down FHs, but heck you can`t expect them to actualy get in a battle over a field capture do ya? I also never have figured out why they run so many bomber escorts up past the ozone layer if they are going to pork everything but the outhouse, but hey, like I said , that`s been going on for as long as I remember. I usualy just mosey on over to another field and hope the grass will grow back in a few years. I can die just as good at one field as I can at another.

Morpheus · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:50:16 AM »

Make the bomb site right again, and add some freakin wind for godsake... This static enviorment is far too gamey and easy to bomb in. I was bombing feild ack from 20k with my salvo set to 1 with a load of 100lb bombs with the new joke-ez-mode bomb site. No F'in way is that close to be real. Its like we're flying around in F117s that look like B17s.

Pooface · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:52:27 AM »

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Make the bomb site right again, and add some freakin wind for godsake... This static enviorment is far too gamey and easy to bomb in. I was bombing feild ack from 20k with my salvo set to 1 with a load of 100lb bombs with the new joke-ez-mode bomb site. No F'in way is that close to be real. Its like we're flying around in F117s that look like B17s.

dead right, it is just too easy. its still easy in the normal sight, but it means we wont get as many complete tards bombing hangars all over the place

Flayed1 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:55:22 AM »

I find bombing is way to easy and I believe I was one of the bigest oponants of the easy bombing method when it came out. Did you know now that with this easy mode you can calibrate while in the pilot position? Press U hold Y for 10 seconds and poof. Heck with this method I learned the other day how to program a macro into my X52 that gives me a perfect calibration every time unless my speed changes. I took a newb to the TA when he asked how to bomb and I explaned what to do on the way to target and he hit what he was aiming for on the first try dead on and yet we still have the dive bombing buff dweebs.
We also have the furball guys complaining about buff guys killing the hangers so HT changes the bomb blast radius and makes them so weak that it's just silly.
The other night I lined my 15K 24's up on a medium field to hit the hangers (far to many red guys coming out of that base) I had a perfect calibration and dropped 12000 lbs of bombs on both sets of hangers and nothing happened. The craters were in contact with the hangers and not one went down as if the FH's now have some form of shielding.

So my question is this if the bombs are so weak now that we need perfect direct hits on hangers and such why did they mess with the bomb calibration mode? Seems to me that they just went in a loop. Used to be harder to calibrate but if done well with some practice you could bomb fairly well, now we hardly have to try to calibrate and now it's almost impossible to kill things with a perfect calibration.

I have to ask HTC staff what is the point in going in a circle like this?