Flight control setup help

[Naytch]

To fly, I use an X-45 and CH pedals. Now, there's nothing wrong in AH, but in other sims, like falcon 4.0, it gets messed up, and bcuz of that I haven't been able to try out all these other sims

First of all, is that I can't use both the stick and rudder at the same time - I can only use one at a time. I choose the stick (duh) but I cant control the rudder properly with the 'teeter totter' (cudnt think of a name) like control at the bottom of the throttle. How can I make these games let me fly with both stick and pedals?

What's more is that those two mode switchers on the throttle (the things that slide left to right) are read as buttons, so the comp thinks the buttons being pressed all the time, making assigning joystick controls impossible since the moment I click 'assign key' the comp assigns it to whatever button the switch is assigned to before I even get the chance to press the button I wanted it assigned to. Is there a way to disable these switches so the comp wont even know they're there or better yet, make them do what they're supposed to and just make them mode switchers?

I hope you can understand my poor explanation. Thanks in advance.

[TequilaChaser]

tried the help forums for the other games/sims you play? if you going to play in multiple sims, I suggest you use any programming software that came with your joystick ( X-45) because if you program it thru AcesHigh, then the only way around to use other games is to go in and keymap the other games identical to Aces High or reconfigure your stick.......

as for helping you with other flightsims, I am sorry, can't help ya anymore than what I just typed......

need any help here in aceshigh though, just holler at us or shoot us an email......that is what we are here for.......

~S~

[DamnedRen]

As TC said every flight sim is different and just about every flight sim has it's own stick setup which you can manipulate by assigning specific jobs to each button/hat on your joystick. Either by doing it "in-game" or by using the program that came with your joystick. For example, CH products went from Speed Keys to a new stick mapping program when they updated their equipment from analog to USB. A little background....CH Speed Keys would let you assign each button to a task then download and "SAVE" it to the stick/throttle. When they came out with the USB version they forgot to allow you to "save" it (I gather they did away with the flash card that held the program file the stick) and now you have to dl the stick set everytime you turn on your computer. This means some folks have programmed their stick sets in mapping and dl it everyday to their sticks while others have gone into the game and assigned buttons there and do not have to dl it but they may have to go into stick mapping and make sure the stick/throttle/rudders are "seen" (operational).
As far as the games themselves, Falcon 4 has programming in game as does X-Plane.

Aside from that you may need to make sure you have calibrated your stick in windoz and also assign rudder pedals in there. For many it's much easier to "add" a stick in windoz as a 3 axis, 2 button joystick, with rudders iso your stick name (with all its buttons). Since you are going to be assigning buttons with certain tasks all windows needs to understand about the stick is the axis's and primary and secondary weapons (trigger, b2 key) along with rudder pedals and it will work perfectly.  I personally use CH Analog stick, thr and TM rudder pedals as noted above. Ok, that's the windoz side of it. For the game,  because I still use Speed Keys all of my buttons (39, I think) were setup there iso in the game.

One last note. While the view hat, trigger and secondary armament fire buttons are normally hard wired I have noticed alot of folks using 8 way hats are not getting the corner view in AH2 and may need to assign it in game. This is fairly easy to do.

Hope this helps.

[Naytch]

Sorry for being annoying but I don't understand. The problem is that some of these games make me choose to fly with only one controller, meaning stick or pedals and never both, unlike AH. Is there any way I can make the game let me fly with both of them, especially in falcon 4.0?

The other problem is these two mode switchers that are on the throttle of my X-45. I think they're supposed to be for changing the stick button setup in flight, but the problem is windows reads them as buttons. The first position of the switch is button 9, second position is button 10, etc. Now since it's a switch and a button, the comp reads it as being pressed all the time (exept in AH) So when I try to assign a function to a stick button, the comp reads the button I press as button 9, before I even have a chance to press the button I wanted it assigned to. Is there any way to change this, or simply disable these two switches at least?

[DamnedRen]

You're certainly not annoying anyone but you might be looking at the concern from perhaps one angle when there might be more than one. Here's a possbile reason why.

Windows, be it 98, 2000, xp, whatever, also looks at the stick when you plug it in. It "sees" the controllers plugged in but may not "assign" them to work together until you go into the game controller in windows and tell the program that you want the stick, throttle and rudders working as a team. If you don't do that you may having the trouble you're asking about.

As far as trying to reassign buttons 9 and 10 in AH that is fairly simple. But, remember I told you some buttons are "hard wired" meaning when you plug the stick in you already have them doing a particluar function. You should be able to change just about any assigned function in AH2. To do this you have to go into stick mapping and see what those buttons have already been assigned to do. Then clear and reassign them to a new fuction.
The path to stick mapping from within the game is;
esc key, then under map look at the list and click setup/controls/joystick/stick mapping. That is where you will make the changes.

All stick/thr/rudders are different. For instance, the newer usb CH products have to be "ganged" together in the mapping manager or they will not work correctly in AH.l My old CH stuff is always set due to its ability to keep then stick set even with the computer turned off.

Regarding the other game, I have a buddy who was both an F4 and F16 Fighter Pilot Instructor, ala Red Flag and he asked me to run it with him. To make a long story short, when I loaded the game and fired it up, my pedals worked perfectly without my having to do anything.

Any trainer you run across in the Training Arena (TA) can help you through the AH2 stick setup. Drop on by the TA.

Also, don't hesitate to ask any questions here. This is what we are here to do.

Suggestion: if you are looking for more info on other games you may want to look around for forums on them as they deal with their issues daily just as do we here for AH2.

Hope this helps.

[straffo]

Originally posted by Naytch
Sorry for being annoying but I don't understand. The problem is that some of these games make me choose to fly with only one controller, meaning stick or pedals and never both, unlike AH. Is there any way I can make the game let me fly with both of them, especially in falcon 4.0?

AH use all the controllers it see
Falcon manage only the 1st controller installed and don't check the other device ...

The other problem is these two mode switchers that are on the throttle of my X-45. I think they're supposed to be for changing the stick button setup in flight, but the problem is windows reads them as buttons. The first position of the switch is button 9, second position is button 10, etc. Now since it's a switch and a button, the comp reads it as being pressed all the time (exept in AH) So when I try to assign a function to a stick button, the comp reads the button I press as button 9, before I even have a chance to press the button I wanted it assigned to. Is there any way to change this, or simply disable these two switches at least? [/B]

To change this load Saitek's drivers, until you put the driver this is the bormal behaviour.

[Naytch]

Thanks a bunch

When I first installed the drivers, had the same prob, but fiddled with it until the thing stopped recognizing the switches as buttons. I got the peds and stick to work together on other games, but falcon 40 needed a patch, I dl'd it so now all's good

Thanks again