Author Topic: 1981 pope assassination apparently planned by the Soviets (Read 782 times)

Jackal1 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2006, 02:38:46 PM »

Russia is your ally.
Russia is your friend.
Now...if we can just wrap up these deals on the bridge and battleship I`m selling...................... .........................

Russian · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2006, 02:53:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Laz.. it's how the system has always worked in Russia... bribes and kickbacks, payoffs; all part of the business of government and social order in the former soviet union. For them, it's not even noteworthy.. it's just how it 'is'. There, yah just hand a cop your papers and a bribe even for a routine traffic stop. Here, that's a trip to jail.. there, it's how you stay outta jail.

Our system has gotta be exceedingly strange to them.. a whole different set of 'rules'. Culture shock, to say the least.

I love this authoritative voice of yours…. It might sound very authentic to person ignorant of Russia, but to me it sounds like a WAG. (Wild as% guess)

Squire · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2006, 02:56:34 PM »

"Catholic Church is partially responsible for crisis in Poland in early-80s, but USSR didn't interfere there."

We need a calender of your best posts. That ones a keeper.

The USSR feared the Catholic Church (and any other religion), as it did any institution that it could not control directly, like the press, and television. It was about loyalty to the state, and anything that subverted that, was a threat. Cant have folks listening to what the opinion of the Pope is on something over what the Central Commitees policy is, who knows where that might lead?

As far as not interfering, thats too funny, since the Warsaw Pact got their marching orders from the Kremlin.

Urchin · « **Reply #18 on:** March 03, 2006, 02:59:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
They don't have the same social conditioning to 'right & wrong' we grew up with.. they truly think some of our concepts of 'fair' are outright hilarious.

Even in the US, "fair" is nothing but something most people pay lip service to. If someone thinks they can earn a penny grinding another person into the dust they'd do it. As long as the letter of the law isn't violated, its "fair".

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2006, 05:23:49 PM »

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I love this authoritative voice of yours…. It might sound very authentic to person ignorant of Russia, but to me it sounds like a WAG. (Wild as% guess)

Weird, I witnessed this thing first hand several times in soviet russia and even after that. Hangtime has it right on.

Gh0stFT · « **Reply #20 on:** March 03, 2006, 06:28:11 PM »

unbelievable! nuke those b******* today!

uuups, as far as i know no pope was killed,
sorry!!

RAIDER14 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2006, 06:34:12 PM »

the news said the those commies were mad cuase the pope was not supporting them so the soviets...

lazs2 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 04, 2006, 10:01:15 AM »

urchin.... most people I know belive in making a fair profit and allmost everyone I know will help people who deserve it or even appear to deserve it.. Americans are constanly scammed by bogus charities.

I trust my fellow man a lot more than I trust government... you and the commies seem to feel the oppossite.

lazs

Hangtime · « **Reply #23 on:** March 04, 2006, 10:52:03 AM »

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Originally posted by Russian
I love this authoritative voice of yours…. It might sound very authentic to person ignorant of Russia, but to me it sounds like a WAG. (Wild as% guess)

Russian.. you are correct to a point. It's an opinion, but not a WAG. More of a reasoned observation based on reading, listening and talking to russians now living here and to others (admittedly biased) that have been there, lived there; left there.. and that's my impression. If it's wrong; fill me in... my minds not closed.

Urchin · « **Reply #24 on:** March 04, 2006, 02:29:08 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
urchin.... most people I know belive in making a fair profit and allmost everyone I know will help people who deserve it or even appear to deserve it.. Americans are constanly scammed by bogus charities.

I trust my fellow man a lot more than I trust government... you and the commies seem to feel the oppossite.

lazs

And who is scamming them, oh enlightened one?

The Nigerians aren't that successful.

Dago · « **Reply #25 on:** March 04, 2006, 03:03:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Pope was just a minor accident, everyone knows that Evil Communists crucified Christ.

Please tell me any good reason for Soviet leadership to assasinate Pope.

BTW, Soviet press back in the 80s blamed Turkish/Moslim extremists and wished Pope to get well.

And Chernobyle was just a minor accident?

Delirium · « **Reply #26 on:** March 04, 2006, 04:39:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
BTW, Soviet press back in the 80s blamed Turkish/Moslim extremists and wished Pope to get well.

What were they going to print?

"Damn, we didn't kill you but we hope you get well enough so we can try again."

More of this story will air, without a doubt... I'm not sure I completely trust the story yet, but having Russia encourage, or even plan, the death of a Pope that was a staunch opponent vocally and politically of Communism is not far fetched.

mora · « **Reply #27 on:** March 04, 2006, 07:42:29 PM »

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And Chernobyle was just a minor accident?

Yes, only 3 people died.

Hangtime · « **Reply #28 on:** March 04, 2006, 07:45:47 PM »

they say that from orbit the place looks like green freckles on a redhead at night.

... all those radioactive cows...

Dago · « **Reply #29 on:** March 04, 2006, 08:28:00 PM »

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Yes, only 3 people died.

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The accident destroyed the Chernobyl-4 reactor and killed 30 people, including 28 from radiation exposure. A further 209 on site and involved with the clean-up were treated for acute radiation poisoning and among these, 134 cases were confirmed (all of whom apparently recovered). Nevertheless 19 of these subsequently died from effects attributable to the accident.

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