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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #195 on: March 14, 2006, 03:58:54 PM »
Give up lazs. I have pwned you all!

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« Reply #196 on: March 14, 2006, 04:28:59 PM »
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Lol Lazs.. your arguments are ludicrous.  

"OMG, commie pinko studmuffins have overrun the media and are brainwashing everyone!  Just look at Brokeback Mountain!1!11!  Look!  It categorically proves that EVERY SINGLE movie AND TV show (Fox News excluded, I take it) is run by commie homosexhul pinko studmuffins!"

Momus - "I don't believe you... 7 movies hardly proves that all of Hollywood is under the control of some devious commie-pinko-studmuffin-traitor-Al-quida-homosexshul illuminati..."

Lazs- "LIAR!  PINKO studmuffin LIAR!!  COMMIE TRAITOR!!!"

Momus- "You still haven't really backed up your vie-"

Lazs- "OMG YOU ARE SUCH A LIAR!!!  ANYONE CAN SEE THAT ALL OF TV AND MOVIE ARE OVERRUN BY COMMIEPINKOstudmuffinCHEGUEVA RABERETWEARINGHOMOSEXSHULS!!!  THEY WANT TO TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY AND POKE YOU IN THE POOPCHUTE!  THE ONLY WAY OUT IS REVOLUTION!!!"  

I feel dumber just reading your drivel.


You forgot Black, female, commie pinko studmuffins, Urchin.

You are CLEARLY racist and sexist. Are you on separate accts? How well do you know Mr. Black?:lol

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« Reply #197 on: March 14, 2006, 04:46:40 PM »
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You forgot Black, female, commie pinko studmuffins, Urchin.

You are CLEARLY racist and sexist. Are you on separate accts? How well do you know Mr. Black?:lol


I maintain several shades accounts, and argue with myself a lot.

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« Reply #198 on: March 14, 2006, 04:54:06 PM »
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hmm... so you guys believe that the bias of the artist does not extend to his works?   Really?  I gave a link to top ten books on the hollywood left and they all seem to say differently.

I don't think that anyone here would say that lefty politics do not show themselves in the movies and TV..

lazs


Rofl... someone smack Lazs on the back, he's stuck.

You aren't very familiar with debate, I take it.  

Either that or he is seeking to invent a new method of proof... "Proof by Repetition".  I suppose if this were in person he may try to combine it with "Proof by Volume"...

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« Reply #199 on: March 14, 2006, 10:24:14 PM »
Was Ford Fairlane a lefty pinko movie? That would bum me out, it was freakin hilarious.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #200 on: March 14, 2006, 10:35:32 PM »
I just wanted to drop in to remind everyone how stupid they are for making this a four-page-thread-worthy issue.

:D

Edit: awwwww carp....I tipped it to five. I'm off to hang myself now.

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« Reply #201 on: March 15, 2006, 07:43:22 AM »
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http://www.nationalcenter.org/PMM23.html

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/11/clinton.fundraiser.reut/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/09/politics/main694054.shtml

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1203-09.htm

http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Campaign/022206.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1184818,00.html

Ok... I admit that I am not that good at the google thing but there are literaly hundreds of sites that claim that hollywood supports the left and democrats.

I have seen many references to "83% of dirctors and producers vote democrat" but can't find the poll... no one seems to deny it tho.

In any case... search "hollywood fundraisers"  do some research on the blacklist and you will find that.... those guys really were commies.   Have they changed their stripes?   I think not.

lazs


If there is any doubt just check out their political contributions.

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« Reply #202 on: March 15, 2006, 08:12:41 AM »
When critics look at the movies of the 40's and 50's they see that the commie influence was indeed there.  No one who studies movies denies it.

The commies that were in hollywood used their influence to taint the moveis they worked on.

http://www.powerbooksearch.com/booksearch1565847180.html

It is the same today except that there is no blacklist

http://www.loyno.edu/history/journal/1997-8/Grounds.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1339883/posts
http://www.clantt.com/sports_books/isbn1893554961.html
http://www.laalternativepress.com/v01n22/features/rampell.php
http://www.bookkoob.co.uk/book/1400050308.htm

perhaps it does not exist... perhaps all the oscar nominations lately are just coincidentaly lefty socidalist homo leaning...  Perhaps most of the people who percieve hollywood to be lefty are just wrong...

But there are a lot of us and the lefties in hollywood... no matter what their number... are very high profile and very active.  They contribute 10 times more than their conservative peers to lefty politics... they are at least 10 times as outspoken and... they seem to control most of the awards... that would seem to me to bear out that the conservatives in hollywood saying that they are ostricised are telling the truth... no one complains that they are being treated unfairly because they are lefty (except by customers)

I guess I would say that I agree with coulters book "Treason" on the hollywood left.  In so far as she identifies the problem.\

lazs

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« Reply #203 on: March 15, 2006, 08:26:30 AM »
Laz .... your so far 'right' the whole planet looks 'left' to you.....

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« Reply #204 on: March 15, 2006, 08:40:30 AM »
or... you are so left that you don't even recognize left anymore.

I don't know if I am "right"...  I am just observant.   I really don't care what they make for entertainment... I watch what I want and I ignore some of the more insipid lefty whines and digs and not so subtle agendas.  

The movies they spend all their effort on hold no interest... I won't be seeing them... those with only subtle agendas (and everyone has agendas) be they right or left.... I will enjoy the action or the gratuitous nudity or the humor and ignore the political cloying and pandering whiney agenda.

I just feel that they are wasting their con on me.   I also feel that they are wasting it on you since they are preaching to the choir.

lazs

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« Reply #205 on: March 15, 2006, 08:49:08 AM »
Pulled this out of one of lazs' links...

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From the anticapitalist themes of gangster films such as 1931's Public Enemy and the explicit and, for its time, shocking antilynching message that screenwriter Hugo Butler inserted in Mickey Rooney's 1938 Huckleberry Finn to the underlying class-struggle implications of film noir and the proletarian subtext of The Wizard of Oz


"Anti-lynching" is leftist?

Wait a minute here.... How many threads have been started on this BBS extolling the virtues of the old actors and their patriotism. I thought those were the good old days... will you guys make up your minds!

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« Reply #206 on: March 15, 2006, 09:08:10 AM »
I'm not sure if it's even worth posting on this any more since you're doing such a good job of demolishing your own argument Lazs. Maybe you should read your own links before you post them?

Quoted directly from first link you posted:

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America’s increased awareness of homosexuals that resulted from the Kinsey studies and the increased attempts by the government to expel homosexuals from government agencies resulted in the increased discussion of homosexuality within the popular culture.


The implication is clear - discussion within "popular culture" of these issues was in response to what was going on in society, not the opposite as you contend.

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Although Hollywood attempted to do its part to enforce the conservative agenda dominating America in the 1950s, Americans were beginning to show signs that they were willing to pay to view films containing content that the MPPDA found inappropriate, and the Production Code’s authority began to weaken by the mid-fifties.


Is any of this sinking in yet?

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Changes in the acceptable images of Hollywood films reflected mainstream Americans’ limited willingness to view homosexuality in the mass media. Homosexuality could be portrayed and discussed as long as the images and discussions were "safe" and "discrete," which usually meant revealing the social condemnation of homosexuals.


Again, Hollywood refecting the tastes of society, not trying to change them.

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By 1969, the media was forced to acknowledge the existence of a gay community and the issues it faced.


Read that. "Forced to acknowledge". Not "tried to force it down soceties throat".

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Although American audiences in the 1990s can see healthy lesbian characters, and hear them defined as "lesbians," only an independent film has managed to completely validate lesbianism by portraying a successful relationship between two women.


I thought you were arguing that promotion of homsexuality was rife, not that it was relegated to indie films. Confused? I think you are.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1339883/posts - I'm not sure how you think this opinion article on the Passion of the Christs failure to garner oscars helps your argument; from the piece itself:
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A movie that got far, far better reviews and made even more money as the seventh-ranking movie of all time -- 'Shrek 2' -- wasn't nominated for best picture either and nobody's outraged about that,"


http://www.clantt.com/sports_books/isbn1893554961.html - Great, another link that totally fails to give any information at all as to how Hollywood is promoting a left wing agenda via it's movie output.

http://www.laalternativepress.com/v01n22/features/rampell.php - again, lot of talk about about activism on the part of today's actors; very little substance when it comes to describing how this activism is being translated into film output.

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I guess I would say that I agree with coulters book "Treason" on the hollywood left. In so far as she identifies the problem


Actually, I'd say the reason you identify with Coulter is that you share her knack of arriving at whichever conclusion she's chosen in advance irrespective of the quality of the evidence to hand.

Pretty poor effort all in all Lazs. Keep digging though; I'm enjoying watching you make my case for me.

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« Reply #207 on: March 15, 2006, 09:12:09 AM »
MT... many of the actors that are  reviled today like Charleton Heston and Regan were very active in civil rights and equal rights.  I agree with what they were doing.     They were all about the "equal" part.

I believe that most of what you are talking about is the blacklist.   Those people were indeed commies and it influenced their work.  I also believe that they may have been high profile but that they were not even as big of a majority as they are today so yes..... the old days were more conservative.

lazs

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« Reply #208 on: March 15, 2006, 09:12:35 AM »
Even movies like Robocop are very influential.  Now what was the theme of Robocop?  Corporate takeover of a city.  About that time when Robocop came out, a building design was chosen for our city hall and govt. offices that looked like something out of that movie.  It was built.   Makes you think.

Also about that time I noticed some university police dept. cars in this state sported the Robocop look for awhile.  Flat black overall.  Makes you think.

But yes, that's a small example of the influence movies have on the "movers and shakers".   They built ugly and intimidating buildings and police cars under the movie's influence.  The building is built, but those campus police cars painted like that weren't around long, probably because they looked sinister.  The association of both designs with the movie in both cases is undeniable.

Not that the police car design was all that bad, kinda cool but definitely not politically correct by today's standards for a college campus I would think.  



I agree with Lazs.  Movies are influential.  So are TV shows.  Why do you think movies are rated, or TV shows place "warnings" before the viewing audience?  Ya think they would if it wasn't the law?  It's when movies (entertainment) influence action that they become under scrutiny, and rightfully so.  Who here has not questioned a movie's message?  I don't see why the HW elite are afraid to admit being biased, for heaven's sake.  Seems most outspoken people readily admit it.  It's a phony baloney world with Hollywood.




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« Reply #209 on: March 15, 2006, 09:18:01 AM »
Momus... what is "popular culture"? it is not me and my friends or even yours.... It is media including hollywood... you are destroying your own arguement if you admit that "popular culture" pushed a gay awareness or... agenda for one.

you then go on to say that... while Americans were uncomfortable with leftist ideas... Hollywood threw as much of it at them as they could get away with (make a buck) again.... simply what I have been saying.


sinking in yet?

You seem to be admitting, at least in part, what I and others are saying.... that regardless of the money... the left finds these topics to important to ignore... that they will push them at every opportunity.

lazs