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Offline funkedup

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« on: October 12, 2001, 12:42:00 PM »
I think a bio warfare attack constitutes a weapon of mass destruction.  And US policy has always been to reply in kind to any such attack.  If they can trace this to Afghanistan, there could be a glowing glass parking lot coming soon over there.   :(
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2001, 12:44:00 PM »
I believe you are right, especially if its widespread, say, 100 or more.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2001, 12:46:00 PM »
Are you referring to the Anthrax cases?

I thought they didn't know where it came from?

I only know of 3 people who got it, 2 from American Media and another that I don't recall where it was.

Do you have any other news on it?

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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2001, 12:51:00 PM »
Guys... due to the "bio" scare of the media right now, typical cases that are never reported are now being reported. Dont freak yet.

 Even if they do hit us w/it...i dont see us nuking them unless its on-par w/a nuke strike in devastation.

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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2001, 12:52:00 PM »
3 case of it at American media (3rd was a woman) and 1 case of "Skin type" anthrax at NBC in Downtown New York City today.
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2001, 12:59:00 PM »
I got a feeling it's gonna be more than 3 cases.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2001, 01:02:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
1 case of "Skin type" anthrax at NBC in Downtown New York City today.

What's that? The only thing I know about Anthrax is that it is basically a cold when it first starts out (maybe flu), after about 6-8 days it will start to shut down your unconscious bodily functions (heart/lungs) and that's when you are no more.

I heard reports that the anthrax strain found in the one man who died in Florida (have the other 2 survived? Or are they going to die too?) was in fact a non-natural form of the virus.

Of course xBat is right, however, there have only been 19 cases of Anthrax in a long while in the US... and 4 in the past week?
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2001, 01:07:00 PM »
The pulmonary anthrax (where the spores get in your lungs) occur in only 10% of the cases involving the anthrax bacteria (spelling edit).  The skin anthrax comprises the other 90%.  Basically, you get some nasty lesions that when they ulcerate have a nice black core (anthrax comes from the Greek word for coal).  The lady in NYC contracted skin anthrax.  The 1st case in Florida was pulmonary and he died.  The 2nd case had the spores in his nasal passages but didn't develop pulmonary anthrax last I read.

The lady in NYC received a letter with a powdery substance on Sept 25th.  The powder tested NEGATIVE for Anthrax, yet now she has a case of skin Anthrax (rash and a mild fever, she'll be just fine.)  Dunno what to think on that...

[ 10-12-2001: Message edited by: Nifty ]
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2001, 01:10:00 PM »
I got some news for you guys. For years we were a known as a "retaliatory strike only" nation when it came to using atomic power and bio/chem weapons. We had stockpiles of the bio/chem stuff. But I was told by my superiors some time ago that the last administration has changed the policy. Basically it is not "mandatory" that we retaliate in kind any more. Apparently Bill changed that policy. As far as the nasty stuff, we dont even consider its use anymore. Unless there is something I dont know about.


Granted, my source was not at a hi-level. My curiosity is up now, I am gonna look somemore.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2001, 01:11:00 PM »
Sounds lovely.

I heard (on the news) that the pulmonary version of the virus has to be a specific size to infect you... now is this true with the skin version of anthrax?

Are they both equally lethal, or is the pulmonary strain more lethal?

If you have a website that explains it, that would probably be just as good so you don't have to type too much.   ;)

Thanks!
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2001, 01:12:00 PM »
A thought for debate. Do you think it possible that people over the years got sick/died from anthrax but the cases were mis-diagnosed as something else? Now that we are looking for it, we're finding it?
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2001, 01:13:00 PM »
Big time wiggin goin on here in NYC.

The USMail is being used to distribute the anthrax. Seemingly; they are targeting news orginizations and government offices. Latest case in NYC reported from a letter recieved Sept25th at NBC News/NY.

No indications yet how widespread the attack is, what the source is (terrorist or nutcase) and/or what the extent of the real threat is.

My opinion... we're gonna see some average folks panic.. I expect a lotta calls are being made to local authorities regarding unknown sourced mail, overwhelming and effectively swamping local law enforcement people.

We may see the postal system shut down completely before this is over.

I doubt an anthrax attack using the postal service will elicit the overwhelming nuclear response that funked mentioned... but it will certinaly put a whole lotta pressure on the administration to do something truly stupid in the middle east..  like invade afghanistan before we are ready.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2001, 01:50:00 PM »
AGGGHHH  WHITE POWDER ON MY KEYBORD

AGGGHHH ...WE ALL GONA DIE

nevermind , hazmat team said it was dandruff
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2001, 01:53:00 PM »
ugh, software error and I lost my post...  

Hang, the article I read said the powder was negative on anthrax

 
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The woman, who was not identified beyond her affiliation with "Nightly News" anchored by Tom Brokaw, received an envelope September 25 containing a white powder that tested negative for anthrax. She later tested positive -- the results just became known Friday -- but has been taking antibiotics since October 1.


Swulfe, the article has some info on Skin Anthrax in a sidebar.  It's not as lethal as pulmonary anthrax.
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2001, 02:25:00 PM »
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/33790.htm

Read to educate yourselfs

Its my opinion that one of the 50 missing nuclear suit case bombs is much more of a threat than Anthrax. Wife says Anthrax is the least of their (health care) workers worries, Small pox is the #1 worry (Not enough vaccine, those that are vacinated are only good for 5 yrs, most born before 1975 have NOT been vaccinated for small pox, and its VERY contagious thru the air)
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