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Offline Shifty

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« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2006, 04:36:08 PM »
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I don't HO and I don't fly at 20k either.  come to arena and i'll hand you all your parts on each and every sortie.  ;)  


I'm glad you cleared that up.  You fly at 25K in your 110, not 20K, and you brag instead of chest thump.

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with regard to my free time I manage my affairs very judiciously and I utilize the concepts of economy of force and leveraging of my assets.


Your BS is first class as well.:aok

I like your idea . I don't think the Seafire is the same animal as a Spitfire , but it's your baby fill it as you wish.

 OM, I don't think the idea is to just see how the LW planes stack up against the Blue planes. Thats been done with LW subs in PTO's. I think it was a sincere effort by Storch to get a new scenario out there. I'm glad to see your going to pay attention to his, maybe you'll consider other players ideas in the future.

I got one question on all this Spit talk. I don't do any better in it then I do in a USAAF plane. Maybe because I'm a BnZr at heart. Is it the Spit, or is it the cannons? Nobody complains about the spit or hurri during BOB. Because they are both shooting 303's. Put a cannon in them and all the sudden their dweeb planes. Same with the F4U , the Axis doesn't complain until the C model with the cannon enters the setup.

Is it the aircraft or do you Luftwaffe boys just want to be the only ones armed with 20mm?:confused:
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« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2006, 05:15:00 PM »
"they were nowhere near as good as they are depicted here. "
Do you have proof of this?

"In here any dweeb can land kills in a spit while eating jelly donuts and watching pron."
What does that say about the opposition?

We are all entitled to our opinions here & I'm going to try to keep this constructive now. The setup looks good, but I don't believe the seafire is as much of an uber monster as it is a well rounded a/c, hence it's appeal.
 I can understand leaving it out of the PTO sets featuring the blue planes vs. IJN & IJA, but not a setup thats highlighting the FAA. It's like asking to leave the 109's out of the Finn/Russ setups.

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« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2006, 05:27:43 PM »
Is it the aircraft or do you Luftwaffe boys just want to be the only ones armed with 20mm?


I believe that it is the latter. I have noticed that when the allied planeset has only  spit1s or hurri1s with the 303 that you have to avoid the HO HO HO syndrome. It doesnt matter how many times that  I avoid  a HO [some but not all LWs ]will just yank and bank and just keep trying  to do the headon shot. But if  the cannon equipped  a/c especially the Hurri is available the HO mindset seems to disappear. About the only time I do use HO tactics is when I'm being ganged by 2 or more LW. Thats just trying to survive but some guys live on it even when it isnt a necessity.:)
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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2006, 08:25:14 PM »
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he knows that, he'll be one of them.  last night I had to climb up to 25k to spank him with my 110 while he was in a spit16, refusing to engage only climbing away. a long long shot of 30mm precipitated his departure from the arena as he retired for the evening.

I understand that the spit played a pivotal role in WWII and that it was a fine, perhaps arguably the finest fighter to see service in that era as evidenced by it's long production run and unquestionable success. It was truly a brilliant design from the fertile mind of a talented designer.  In short Reginald Mitchell may have indeed saved Great Britian with his capable fighter.

The problem with the spits in this WWII game is that there is an inexhaustible supply of them and they were nowhere near as good as they are depicted here.  They remained competetive throughout the war but never were they able to totally dominate their opponents.  The kills they got were earned.  In here any dweeb can land kills in a spit while eating jelly donuts and watching pron.

I believe the spitfire in it's AHII iteration has no place in any historical set up where it's numbers can't somehow be limited.  If they were my set ups to host they would be present but three to six sectors back from the front lines.

You have supposedly historical squads that seldomly fly anything else.  case in point, many of the players from the 325th VFG will never fly the P40, P47 or P51.  They will all be found dweebing around at 107k in spitfires, cherry picking fights and a particular player proclaiming his supreme "aceyness" on 200.  The spitfire belongs in the MA.




Biggest load of rubbish I've read on here to date, before posting posts like this, please read rule number 4.
I hope amway starts selling glasses because you need a fresh pair, spit 16 ? try a 14, whats all this c**P about long long shots with a 30mm? how about this scenario- I'm tooling along in a 14, I had just landed 4 in a tempest and 2 in a spit 9,  wanted to try something different,come across a k4, he climbs and trys a long winded spiral climb type thing, probably on the horn saying there's a spit up here, get to about 20ish k, and low and behold, there's a 110 AND a 190  ABOVE AND the K4 coming back, so there we have it, 3V1, and I'll tell you what got me killed, my wife coming in and telling me my dinners ready, had around 5 mins grace, what do you do? turn around and a long trip back? or do you stick it out with a solitary 109 till the horde show up ABOVE me  and then tough it out and if you die so what?
I honestly don't know why you type rubbish like that, if you do it to get a reaction then you have succeded, I don't mind losing to anyone, but please don't type things like this are just not true, we are all here to have a bit of a laugh, nothing more or less, please don't spoil my fun with childish antics like this that just upset people.
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And before I forget, what's all this "one of them" ? I take great offence to comments like that for reasons you'll never understand, so you can also remember and refrain from including my name in with statements like that.
Thank you for taking the time to read this Storch.
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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2006, 08:34:34 PM »
Lol.. there is no X on 1.  

Come on, Storch is the most under rated pilot in the game.  

Hell, I remember one time me, Wldthing and the ENTIRE SQUAD of BKs tried BnZing him.. we were all in Tempests and he was in a 109E4..

He got ALL of us.

It was positively magical.  

When he says he dominated you after you dove from a 20k alt advantage in a spit 16 and he was in a 110, and YOUR story is it was a 3 on 1 with all three of them higher, I know who I'M gonna believe.  

Storch!  

You need to take me to the DA some day and learn me some fightin!

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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2006, 11:22:33 PM »
poor urchin still smarting over his butt whooping all those weeks ago.

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« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2006, 12:01:48 AM »
Lol, "butt whoopin" huh?  

News Flash, ace.  I get killed all the time.  There are only two things that make em memorable.  

The first is a really good fight that I lose.  I'll usually remember that guy as being pretty good.

The second is the usual death, which for me is an X on 1, followed up by some ****-talkin newb thinking he went and did something special.  I usually remember those guys too, but not for being good.

Can you guess which category you fall under?

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« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2006, 07:03:11 AM »
to remind you ace, it was a 3 v 3 and you all died. afterwards we all ran away for fear of your aceyuberness, what you being in a spitfire and all.  we figured it was ok to do so, I mean since afterall you were all dead.  the fight was memorable to me not just because I bested you but because of how easily it happened,  I thought perhaps your kid was playing on your account or something.

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« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2006, 09:55:20 AM »
Well, like I said earlier.. you are probably the single most under rated pilot in the game.  I definately have you in the top 1.  Maybe even the top top 1 on your good days, when you are the only person that could possibly beat you.

I think if you were to move from the CT to the MA, would actually become a legend in other people's minds too!

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« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2006, 10:48:48 AM »
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Well, like I said earlier.. you are probably the single most under rated pilot in the game.  I definately have you in the top 1.  Maybe even the top top 1 on your good days, when you are the only person that could possibly beat you.

I think if you were to move from the CT to the MA, would actually become a legend in other people's minds too!
far from it I'm somewhat below average at best.  but you ain't all that and a bag of chips either.  it was fun to feed you to the trigger fish.  come back I'd like to do it again sometime.

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« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2006, 05:13:19 PM »
 I can say without ego that one v one in any planes you feel like picking you'd lose.  

As far as being "all that and a bag of chips" (flashback to elementary school there).. I'd say I'm probably in the top 1-2% for fighters.  That is good enough for me, since that is really all I do.

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« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2006, 05:25:29 PM »
I'd say I'll see you in the arena mr...1%er.

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« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2006, 05:28:26 PM »
Who said I'm coming into "your arena" Mr Mouth?  

Got better things to do with my time.

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« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2006, 06:31:55 PM »
ok mr 1%er have it your way but just in case I'm in there every night and easy to find.

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« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2006, 06:37:27 PM »
No doubt, I'll just look for the horde.