The Dubya Files.

[Fatty]

1st EVER president with felony conviction

Your case would be better served if kept in the realm of reality.

[Creamo]

If you got a felony conviction out of that, in fact you are inclined to believe anything is true. Including that you makes sense or are remotley right. Wow.

[miko2d]

Originally posted by jihad:
LOL, after the last year of ratpublicans bashing dumbocraps your getting some payback.  

 We did argue morality issues a lot and policy implications. I do not remember people seriously stating that Clinton was stupid - he was immoral, lied under oath in the court of law and conducted policies that many did not like, but he was recognized as a brilliant mind and excellent people manupulator.

 In fact I have never ment a single smart person among those who explaned someone they do not like throught his stupidity.

 Bush may not be the brightest politician in US history but he managed to graduate college, have successfull career, serve governor of a major state for more then one term and persuade exactly half of US population (likely more affluent one) to vote for him.
 It may be surprise to you but person's intellectual abilities do not corellate with him.her being good. The two brightest political minds of the last century were Stalin and Hitler.
 If you think that Bush is so wrong, why would you wish him to be smarter? To be more successfull?

 I wonder if you even realise how stupid you look with your childish name calling?

 miko

[GRUNHERZ]

Jihad must be Al Gore...........

[jihad]

LOL Grunherz, I dislike Gore as much as I do Dubya.

All politicians are scum, and dubya is just as bad as bubba was, that's why I take exception to guys extolling his virtues all the time.

I'll shut up when you guys do.    

[LePaul]

Ah, so you see, he wants the last word at all costs.

Jihad, get a life.  Just try.  You get backed into a corner when shown you are wrong about Bush and resort to the old "they are all scum".  So, if thats the case, why aren't you pounding on Mr Condit and others?  

I assume you are an equal oppritunity loud mouth, yes?

[straffo]

98 George HW Bush (R)
182 William J. Clinton (D)
91 George W. Bush (R)

It look like mother nature failed to preserve us  
Ever heard of Darwin  ?
rotlf

[Duckwing6]

Gorge W Bush .. leader of the free-world

hehehehehehhe hihihihihi huuhuhuhuhuh

DW6

[Nash]

A president with an IQ of less than 100 is completely beyond my comprehension. It's shocking.

[jihad]

Originally posted by LePaul:
Ah, so you see, he wants the last word at all costs.

Jihad, get a life.  Just try.  You get backed into a corner when shown you are wrong about Bush and resort to the old "they are all scum".  So, if thats the case, why aren't you pounding on Mr Condit and others?  

I assume you are an equal oppritunity loud mouth, yes?

Nah I don't need to get the last word in, and I don't see myself backed into a corner either - I'll admit that the evidence of his cocaine bust has been buried so deep it will probably never be seen, I did exagerate the info in that regard.

What about the rest of his crooked dealings? By attacking me personally you make me think your afraid to discuss the other times he's stepped on his dick.

I really haven't been keeping up with the Condit mess and this thread is about the slack jaw, start another thread if you want to discuss him..

PS:  I'm not wrong about dubya, he's filth.

 

[Nash]

Huh? I thought it was basically admitted that Bush Jr. enjoyed the odd snow party from time to time. So *what* if there was never a conviction or anything like that?

Personally, I could give a damn about it... has zero bearing on his ability to lead IMHO... But splitting hairs over legal records etc. is moot. The guy got the odd nosebleed and of that I personally don't think there is any question.

Again... it's not a biggie imho.

[Eagler]

If you believe the cocaine bust about Bush, then you believe the stories of slick Willie’s involvement with drug smugglers while Ark gov, his fathering illegitimate black children, raping various other women, having many ppl killed (brown, foster to name a few) to keep his crap quiet, in bed with the Chinese, not to mention getting his hummers on the job in the Oval office - the same office Reagan felt so humbled in, he refused to remove his suit jacket and tie, while this clown tried not to trip over himself while chasing fat chicks around the room with his pants down around his ankles.....oops the last one isn't a rumor is it  

In comparison GW still has a way to go to catch up with his predecessor...
GW isn't perfect but 1000x better than what we had crawling around the place for the last 8 years....

[jihad]

Originally posted by Nash:

Huh? I thought it was basically admitted that Bush Jr. enjoyed the odd snow party from time to time. So *what* if there was never a conviction or anything like that?


No doubt he used drugs and alcohol, my beef is that if he was arrested for cocaine possession he should be ineligible to vote or hold the office of president - the same as any other felon.

In effect his community service arrangement was an acknowlegment of guilt wasn't it?

EDIT:

My mistake, he is eligible to vote under Texas statutes if his voting rights were reinstated, but isn't there a law against felons holding high office?

Under Texas statutes the right to vote can be reinstated two years after completion of penalty.

[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: jihad ]

[Fatty]

Jihad, you keep going on as if he has a felony on his record.  I tried to be subtle about it before, however it doesn't appear to be sinking in (something similar to what you accuse Bush of being?).

George Bush does not have a felony.  If you're trying to appply today's laws retroactively, it's possible he could have been, but even that is quite a stretch.  It would hardly make him the first felon though, since starting with George Washington you're going to have multiple violations of present day statutes.

Not even the most rabid republican has such a distorted view of the law that they're going to label Ted Kennedy convicted of manslaughter and drunk driving (he's practically guilty, right?), but there's a lot better case for that than there is for GW being a felon (?).

[miko2d]

Originally posted by Nash:
A president with an IQ of less than 100 is completely beyond my comprehension. It's shocking.

 And if you believe that, I can gess your IQ.  

 You need IQ 115 to study in a college and he did it with better grades then Al Gore.

  have you ever read newspapers?
 Did you see GW IQ test? Did you ever see any IQ test? Have you ever heard of IQ test that tried to estimate person's intelligence by "their ability to speak with clarity"? DId you ever hear about oral IQ test?
 How do you orally measure IQ of a brilliant person with speach impediment - like Dan Quale or GW or Stephen Hawking? Have you never seen brilliant people who could not speak well or think quickly?

 Do you have any idea? What IQ score means and how to use it? If you did, you would know that giving someone 147 or 182 with "accuracy" 5 by estimation is completely bogus.

 IQ standard deviation is around 15 points.
 So between 100 and 115 you have 34% of the population.
 Between 115 and 130 you have 15.7%

 2% of the population have IQ of 130 and higher. Every point above that has so much significance that you need specialized tests with thousands of questions (rather then dozens) for difference to be mathematically meaningfull. A guy of IQ 145 is 3 standard deviations above the mean and rare math reference will give you percentage - it stops at 3. A guy with 147 is several times smarter then 145 and what the hell 182 means, no one can tell. There are not enough people on the planet to express the ratio. And they are talking about 5 points accuracy based on personal opinion of a teleprompted rehearsed speach.

 You people are so gullible...

 miko